Emotions or actions?

NonAspd here.

Was wondering where to draw the line for anti-social behaviour. Since ive been diagnosed otherwise I will not presume to have aspd (even if most of those doctors and therapist have almost no clue what they are doing), so my question is; even though I have empathy and is very good at understanding what people think and what their intentions are, I am capable of betraying friends and going behind their back to spy on their computers, lying about what I feel about people when I honestly think most people are boring and disgustingly predictable. Made a few cons when at bars pretending to be someone important, extremely sociable and able to befriend anyone no matter what I really think of them in my mind and can usually get them to buy more beers for me, etc. none of this seems to bother me much but my friends seem to react badly when hearing these fun stories when I choose to tell them. Im not sadistic in any way and don't really bother with making too big of a mess since im afraid I would get caught or end up in too much drama which irritate me beyond belief. This kind of thing has been shown in both my parents and my grandfather but in a more extreme fashion since he is a businessman with education etc.

Where do you draw the line? Is it in emotion and empathy or the actions that you take?

I could act the way you do without a problem. Until i became aware that I'm a psychopath i could've ask the same question as you did. Because i didn't understand the difference between emotions and cognitive empathy. It turns out that actually i don't have any emotions or empathy, i have just a well developed constructions that i call emotions and cognitive empathy which allows me to read and respond to people in a way that is considered empathetic and act emotions without feeling anything. Maybe you are like this too? Or if you do feel emotions you might have antisocial traits or possibly sociopathy since if I've understood correctly they do have some feelings.

What is the question again?

Normal people do what you do too , people with personality disorders do such things too and not all ofthem are ASPD.

ASPD is a behavioural diagnosis, so yes, it is not about emotions but rather about your actions. It is also good to remember that average ASPD can feel normal range of feeling with some excepions like remorse and guilt and even that they can feel in certain situations.

Bipolar can be diagnosed with ASPD, BPD can be diagnosed with ASPD, depression can be diagnosed with ASPD etc etc.

An individual who has ASPD and is on the sociopathic/psychopathic spectrum is different, there is little to no guilt and remorse, emotions are blunted.

KeisezrG wrote:ASPD is a behavioural diagnosis, so yes, it is not about emotions but rather about your actions. It is also good to remember that average ASPD can feel normal range of feeling with some excepions like remorse and guilt and even that they can feel in certain situations.

KeisezrG wrote:An individual who has ASPD and is on the sociopathic/psychopathic spectrum is different, there is little to no guilt and remorse, emotions are blunted.

I didn't know there was a spectrum but that makes alot of sense. I didn't know you could have the same intensity of emotions even if you have aspd so thats interesting. Do people with aspd really have moments of true empathy? (if something like that even exist since even positive emotions by others happiness really only benefits yourself in the end.

Blueskywhitedove wrote: It turns out that actually i don't have any emotions or empathy, i have just a well developed constructions that i call emotions and cognitive empathy which allows me to read and respond to people in a way that is considered empathetic and act emotions without feeling anything.

What's the difference between constructions of emotion and actual emotion? Btw how did you find out you we're a psychopath? I suppose its possible I have some aspd traits but I really don't care either way. I'm still gonna be the same person even if its the case or not. But I find the topic interesting.

TheCaptain wrote:Dx: BPD with Narc tendencies

Your post fits ^ this ^ just fine. As your Dx states, cluster B's have plenty of overlap.