Human Hivemind

I always feel perplexed when people are outraged by a crime or some form of wrongdoing. I can understand it intellectually. Someone did something bad so you don't like them or feel angry at them. But how people's emotions can easily be provoked by wrongdoing such as murder or rape fascinates me sometimes. I just wonder what gives? Like why is it even your business if someone got murdered or raped? Do you know them personally? I can maybe feel a little dislike for paedophiles and child abusers but even then I don't get outraged and feel the need to punish or even reprove the wrongdoers. Must be the lack of empathy?

What are your opinions on this? Do you feel this way? And if so do you think it comes out of narcissism or just a general disconnect with mankind? I personally never felt part of society and always thought it was all #######4. Sort of like something is seriously wrong with this world and it's all just BS.

CopyCat27 wrote:I always feel perplexed when people are outraged by a crime or some form of wrongdoing. I can understand it intellectually. Someone did something bad so you don't like them or feel angry at them. But how people's emotions can easily be provoked by wrongdoing such as murder or rape fascinates me sometimes. I just wonder what gives? Like why is it even your business if someone got murdered or raped? Do you know them personally? I can maybe feel a little dislike for paedophiles and child abusers but even then I don't get outraged and feel the need to punish or even reprove the wrongdoers. Must be the lack of empathy?

What are your opinions on this? Do you feel this way? And if so do you think it comes out of narcissism or just a general disconnect with mankind? I personally never felt part of society and always thought it was all #######4. Sort of like something is seriously wrong with this world and it's all just BS.

I do not talk about those things like rape and torture with others, thats personal. I do have empathy because I like animals so much.

if someone tried to hurt you and it was also unfair and did you injustice , will you get enraged ? want revenge or justice? or you will just think of it intelectually?think of it like it is done to you,would you dislike him a little if it was done to you or you would be upset?what would be your reaction if it was done to yourself by someone??

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would you forgive him ? be kind to him ? be enraged? be a little mad and get over it?not feel anything? show him mercy? if someone did something that hurt you terribly how would you react? i am curious

Autumn218 wrote:if someone tried to hurt you and it was also unfair and did you injustice , will you get enraged ? want revenge or justice? or you will just think of it intelectually?think of it like it is done to you,would you dislike him a little if it was done to you or you would be upset?what would be your reaction if it was done to yourself by someone??

-- Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:35 pm --

would you forgive him ? be kind to him ? be enraged? be a little mad and get over it?not feel anything? show him mercy? if someone did something that hurt you terribly how would you react? i am curious

If I was wronged even in the slightest I would become angry and potentially very vindictive. I do see where you are coming from but I don't get this feeling when others are hurt. Especially people I don't know personally.

if it happened to your friend do you feel it? was ever someone as valuable to you that you would feel the same for him ? like if he gets hurt you get angry and vindictive.but he would react the same for you. he would want to protect you.(but it has to be mutual or it doesn;t exist one sided)
would you want such connection with the person or you think is a liability?and better alone

Copycat do you like animals?

Autumn218 wrote:if it happened to your friend do you feel it? was ever someone as valuable to you that you would feel the same for him ? like if he gets hurt you get angry and vindictive.but he would react the same for you. he would want to protect you.(but it has to be mutual or it doesn;t exist one sided)
would you want such connection with the person or you think is a liability?and better alone

Good question. I think I would care a but if a friend got hurt. Not sure how much. Generally not as much as others do that's for sure. But I would care.

Interestingly enough when my father had a heart attack I was pretty unphased. I didn't like the fact it happened but didn't feel anything upsetting. It was pretty mechanical. Then again my relationship to my father was never healthy. I do remember him trashing me on the floor as a 5 year old kid and then literally kicking me in the ass like a stray dog and calling me a "son of a whore" and "stupid @@@@@@@" just because I refused to see his picture he was showing me.

What puzzles me is that people get upset when random strangers are hurt. This is what confuses me.

-- Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:17 pm --

caspin wrote:Copycat do you like animals?

Very much, yes.

i don't understand why people get abused by their parents and still adore them. i thought it is normal to not want your parent if he hurts you.
i understand it psychologically, they have explain it to me ,i know it happens,but it upsets me.
i often read thinks like "he abused me" (a description of abuse) and now that they are devastated and try to find ways for the abuser to notice them again and come back. and i think wtf?
i think is normal reaction to not want your father if he hurt you

it is the same feeling,instead of 1 person they just feel it for a bigger group.and why not. like choosing to care and be cared by more people and not just one person in a way.ideally though.i know you can say they might not care back,so ###$ everyone is for themselves and noone cares

Autumn218 wrote:i don't understand why people get abused by their parents and still adore them. i thought it is normal to not want your parent if he hurts you.
i understand it psychologically, they have explain it to me ,i know it happens,but it upsets me.
i often read thinks like "he abused me" (a description of abuse) and now that they are devastated and try to find ways for the abuser to notice them again and come back. and i think wtf?
i think is normal reaction to not want your father if he hurt you

it is the same feeling,instead of 1 person they just feel it for a bigger group.and why not. like choosing to care and be cared by more people and not just one person in a way.ideally though.i know you can say they might not care back,so ###$ everyone is for themselves and noone cares

You make a solid point to be honest. I have very little love for my father but there is a sort of dutiful pseudo relationship. I'm his son and he is my father. If he needs help I help out. If I need help he helps out.

I was even more severely abused by my mother and many people tried to guilt me for hating her or just not caring about her. Pretext is that she is mentally ill when in fact she is a sociopath who pretended to be mentally ill to get away with stuff.

Oftentimes people look down upon me for the way I am cold with my father. They have no clue what happened behind close doors and think he's a great guy. He is in a way but narcissistic people are more about the image than true genuine acts of kindness. So it always seem like I am the bad unruly child and he's the perfect father figure who had to put up with me.

Seems like your description makes sense. Their empathy extends to encompass many people. Arrested empathy is what I have. It still bewildered me but it is as you say it is. Their tribal feelings are very well developed. I function more with the lizard brain. If you study lizards they have no social hierarchy or care for any "member" of their race.

CopyCat27 wrote:What puzzles me is that people get upset when random strangers are hurt. This is what confuses me.

I can only guess that it's because we're an intensely social species and are programmed to look after each other. We're fiercely protective of our young and it is our instinct to aid the injured, sick, and the weak.

Not in all cases, of course, but it's hardwired within most of us. I can remember being the first to rush to a co-worker's aid when he was injured by misusing a machine. It was a reflex, and it surprised me. I was the only one in the vicinity at that moment. It wasn't until others noticed and the histrionics began that I sort of "came to" and backed off. Let them tend to him and for God's sake stop freaking out.

And clean up all that blood while you're at it.