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Re: Trust and paranoia?

Postby CopyCat27 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:46 pm

It sucks to be sexually assaulted but that's life. It can make you very paranoid plus ptsd itself causes paranoia on its own...

So I see some of you are also bipolar like me. I think I have antisocial features. Probably have for sure. I can do criminal things and feel no remorse. May not even understand why people are even pissed off about it. Like what? Seriously?

But regarding paranoia... It makes sense for it to be part of aspd. If you are antisocial you are an enemy of society therefore there is no trust therefore you should expect the worst. Plus, not being a typical average Joe means people may have grudges against you and want to get back at you.

Random thing, I seduced a girl recently and didn't use a condom. I pulled out at the end and wanked on her all my Cum. Don't think there was drip but I still got paranoid that she was trying to get prego from me. She didn't like me raising these fears. But yeah. It's thing like these that make me paranoid as well as people's intentions. Like they might try to deceive or something.

So with this girl I planned to get into a relationship with her but not out of LOVE. Heck, I don't even feel anything for her except lust. Don't really want to con her or anything but there is a Machiavellian self serving in all this. We get together because I think I should practice relationship for the future in case I get married and have kids. It feels like dexter and Rita.
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Re: Trust and paranoia?

Postby KvotheTheRaven » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:39 pm

I have intense periods of paranoia. I feel like someone is watching me, following me, I got sick once and I thought my ex was poisoning me and eventually it cycles to believing that I am in a simulation.

This is related to my schizotypal traits though, not AsPD.
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Re: Trust and paranoia?

Postby Reaper » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:13 pm

CopyCat27 wrote:Do people with aspd have serious trust issues and do you sometimes get paranoid that someone might be trying to harm or deceive you? Like maybe hack you, poison you or do somethibg to con you?


I don't trust anyone, but I don't believe that equates to paranoia. I just think I'm sensibly cautious because there are people out there who are just as capable of doing the things I've done to others.

I don't go around thinking everyone is out to get me. Most people are too concerned with their own lives to bother with mine. Besides, I don't walk around looking like an easy mark. If anyone was foolish enough to think I am and tried to lure me, they'd have a lot more to be concerned about than I would. I'm pretty damn certain of that.
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Re: Trust and paranoia?

Postby fiveintime » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:10 am

ArchCannon wrote:Four words: I do not trust.

Keeps me safe for the most part.


My philosophy is similar, but it's not so much lack of trust as in structuring my life in such a way where trust isn't much of an issue. I have better things to do with brain cycles than wasting them on paranoia. Practical Paranoia (tm)?
I'm not crazy. My reality is just different from yours.
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Re: Trust and paranoia?

Postby Hallava » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:44 am

madness00 wrote:I can image how a victim of sexual assault would be expecting things to be worse than they really are.

The man who sat in front of me in public, preventing me from escaping, and kept touching my breast. I was 17.
The man who followed me around several times claiming he was an artist and demanding my phone number. Lol
The guy who was touching me in public, such a distressing situation I can't even recall where. And who I eventually hit.
The guy who wouldn't get off of me before testing my strength, and then probably finding it unprofitable. And who I later reported to police.
The man who followed me every morning for two years. Until I changed my job.
The guy who followed me last year and who was looking to get close. Rubbing my leg with his was the most he got.
Etc.

Yes, these are the reasons I anticipated a missing "briefcase" before it went missing. And was even prepared with "add-ons" beforehand.
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Re: Trust and paranoia?

Postby justonemoreperson » Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:32 am

@OP

It depends.

If someone (it has to be someone that I have an interest in) says something then I will remember it and compare it to what else they say. Not only the content of what they say, but the language they use and the context in which they say it.

If someone offers information that wasn't requested then I'll wonder why they felt the need to share it, especially if it's not directly relevant.

If someone asks something of me then I'll consider if it's reasonable.

A good rule of thumb is: if someone tries to tell you something about their own character then it's usually done to convince you of something that isn't true.

A confident person doesn't need to tell you how confident they are. A nice person doesn't need to say how nice they are. So, when people say unsolicited things about their own character, it's a red-flag warning that I'm about to become hip-deep in bullsh1t.

Some months back, my wife and I were having a conversation with a new neighbour and her mother. When the neighbour went inside to deal with its children, her mother went into detail about how mentally strong her daughter is and how no one should underestimate her. It was obvious from this that her daughter was f*cked up, weak and easily manipulated; it turns out she is.

Therefore, most people who are not trustworthy will usually try to convince you that they are.
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Re: Trust and paranoia?

Postby Hallava » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:32 am

justonemoreperson wrote:A good rule of thumb is: if someone tries to tell you something about someone else's character then it's usually done to convince you of something that isn't true.

Theeere.
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Re: Trust and paranoia?

Postby user447135 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:57 am

CopyCat27 wrote:Do people with aspd have serious trust issues and do you sometimes get paranoid that someone might be trying to harm or deceive you? Like maybe hack you, poison you or do somethibg to con you?


I used to have paranoia issues when I was going through a medical thing for a couple of years. Outside of them.. no paranoia. I don't trust people though.. trust is earned not given away to just anyone.
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Re: Trust and paranoia?

Postby FormallyZach31 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:00 am

CopyCat27 wrote:Do people with aspd have serious trust issues and do you sometimes get paranoid that someone might be trying to harm or deceive you? Like maybe hack you, poison you or do somethibg to con you?


I get highly paranoid at times and don't trust anyone really except for one person.. hmm ok maybe 2. but no one else. It doesn't take much to set me off on thinking people are trying to mess with me or steal my stuff or plotting things.. im bad now but years ago when I was hallucinating and drugged up all the time I was 10 times worse.
I used to fully believe the government were always watching me, breaking in my house and poisoning my food. I stopped eating for ages and got really sick over it. Also wasted hundreds of dollars on food because I kept throwing it all out because it looked funny or had a smell about it..
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Re: Trust and paranoia?

Postby justonemoreperson » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:31 am

Hallava wrote:
justonemoreperson wrote:A good rule of thumb is: if someone tries to tell you something about someone else's character then it's usually done to convince you of something that isn't true.

Theeere.


That's not what I said. I said what I did for good reason.

In fact, you provided adequate evidence to back up my comment when you started banging on about how much you love the environment and then spent three pages of the forum trying to wriggle out of providing evidence.

You provided information that wasn't necessary or requested, which made me suspicious of it. As it turned out, you do no more than most. So it was done to project an image of yourself that was pretentious.
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