When 16 years of therepy... Fail?

Dastortchen wrote:He tried to abduct a 14 year old girl and her 11 year old sister into his car.

How do you know his intention was to abduct them? Did he actually grab them and try to force them into the car or ask them to get into his car?

If he didn't, then there's no real evidence that he was actually attempting to abduct them.

Also,not his first offense. He was arrested for dating a 14 year old when he was in his 20s. The cops explained they can't do anything unless they caught him in the act.

I personally don't see a real issue with a young girl dating an older guy 10 years her senior if there's no sex involved. Though, when I was 13 I was attracted to an older man in his mid to late 20's who I wanted to have sex with and I would have had the opportunity arisen.

With that said, I wouldn't want my daughter at 13 or 14 dating or having sex with a guy in his 20's. Mainly because of pregnancy, but also because young people (of both sexes) can be more easily manipulated at that age and they can't really give fully informed consent.

Fortunately, my daughter is an adult now, so I don't have to be concerned over any of that happening to her.

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Dastortchen wrote:He tried to abduct a 14 year old girl and her 11 year old sister into his car.

How do you know his intention was to abduct them? Did he actually grab them and try to force them into the car or ask them to get into his car?

If he didn't, then there's no real evidence that he was actually attempting to abduct them.

Also,not his first offense. He was arrested for dating a 14 year old when he was in his 20s. The cops explained they can't do anything unless they caught him in the act.

I personally don't see a real issue with a young girl dating an older guy 10 years her senior if there's no sex involved. Though, when I was 13 I was attracted to an older man in his mid to late 20's who I wanted to have sex with and I would have had the opportunity arisen.

With that said, I wouldn't want my daughter at 14 dating or having sex with a guy in his 20's. Mainly because of pregnancy, but also because young people (of both sexes) can be more easily manipulated at that age and they can't really give fully informed consent.[/quote]

I know because the girls mom posted the girls story in a community Facebook page. They were not grabbed, but cornered. But the 14 year old grabbed her sister and ran to their mom.

If you don't see the problem with that, well... You should probably talk to someone. I had overage lovers when I was young as well. And those men we thought we loved as they had sex with us? Bad news. They were pedophiles. Not a lot of grey area there.


And the 14 year old he "dated"? He got her pregnant. She aborted it, thank God, but yeah. There was sex.


This man is a biological failure. He is a repeat offender. And what do repeat offenders do? Repeatedly offend. It'll happen again. Untill he gets "caught in the act".

It's insane.

Dastortchen wrote:I had overage lovers when I was young as well. And those men we thought we loved as they had sex with us? Bad news. They were pedophiles. Not a lot of grey area there.

I didn't care about love. I didn't want to be loved by the guy I wanted to have sex with. I just wanted to fuk him. I never had sex with anyone at that age anyway. I was 17 before I lost my virginity and that was to someone else of similar age.

Sounds to me like people are just telling you to let the justice system run its course. The justice system certainly has its failings, sometimes overwhelming failings, but the decisions that went into it still have very good reason. Vigilante justice (what you're suggesting) has some serious failings too. For one, it has as much objectivity and fact collecting as an angry, misinformed, torch-wielding mob. Something about self-righteous mob mentality disgusts me, especially historically where they literally persecuted people to torture and death.

That being said, people can be far too docile sometimes too, so you likely have a legit concern.

Doesn't sound antisocial, though. Sociopaths don't actually care about others, except maybe the handful of people they consider their property. Why do you want justice? Sounds to me like you care. That's not to say you don't have issues, and/or maybe you're not grossly different from those around you--it just doesn't sound sociopathic.

On a side note, I visited your state a few months ago. How can you stand the humidity? I almost couldn't breath.

fiveintime wrote:Sounds to me like people are just telling you to let the justice system run its course. The justice system certainly has its failings, sometimes overwhelming failings, but the decisions that went into it still have very good reason. Vigilante justice (what you're suggesting) has some serious failings too. For one, it has as much objectivity and fact collecting as an angry, misinformed, torch-wielding mob. Something about self-righteous mob mentality disgusts me, especially historically where they literally persecuted people to torture and death.

That being said, people can be far too docile sometimes too, so you likely have a legit concern.

Doesn't sound antisocial, though. Sociopaths don't actually care about others, except maybe the handful of people they consider their property. Why do you want justice? Sounds to me like you care. That's not to say you don't have issues, and/or maybe you're not grossly different from those around you--it just doesn't sound sociopathic.

On a side note, I visited your state a few months ago. How can you stand the humidity? I almost couldn't breath.

As I mentioned before, the anger is at the stupidity of the system. I'm not concerned about the hypothetical victims, except in the what the ###$ way. It simply astounds me the complete lack of sense in the system. The issue is one of the scientist watching a lab rat who has been fed methamphetamine. Absolutely nothing it's doing makes sense, and you just want to grab and shake it, yelling, the cheese is right there, you stupid rat!

That said, I do have a tendency to champion for childrens issues. I'm not sure what it is, but since I had my children I have noticed that. I want nothing to do with the actual child before or after, but I do tend to intervine Significantly more than I used to.