Childhood Animal Abuse

Does childhood animal abuse automatically mean you are aspd? I used to snap turtles necks and throw cats on barbed wire. I haven't done that ever since. What you say?

CopyCat27 wrote:Does childhood animal abuse automatically mean you are aspd? I used to snap turtles necks and throw cats on barbed wire. I haven't done that ever since. What you say?

No but it is a red flag, also I think I depends why the animal was abused in the first place and to what degree.

CopyCat27 wrote:Does childhood animal abuse automatically mean you are aspd?

No. It could be an indication though if the behavior is ongoing, but it could also be an indication of some other issue.

I used to snap turtles necks and throw cats on barbed wire. I haven't done that ever since. What you say?

It means you have a sadistic streak, unless you were doing it for some other reason. There could be any number of reasons why you abused animals that may or may not relate to a serious mental health condition.

I have AsPD and I abused animals in childhood occasionally out of amusement. I also killed some small creatures because I was fascinated with watching them die. It wasn't until I left home as a teenager and had sole responsibility of the pets I got that I really started abusing them out of anger. I abused almost every pet* I had well into adulthood and killed some of them.

* Dogs, cats puppies, kittens and some birds.

Anger and poor impulse control is common among people with AsPD, so you are more likely than not to see people with the disorder abuse animals, but it's not a solid indication of AsPD because there are other types of people who abuse animals too.

CopyCat27 wrote:Does childhood animal abuse automatically mean you are aspd? I used to snap turtles necks and throw cats on barbed wire. I haven't done that ever since. What you say?

I can understand snapping Turtles neck.. they're barely anything. Why the heck would you throw cats on barbed wire? Sport? Anger? To feel power or control?

No.. definitely doesn't automatically mean AsPD. Just like not every AsPD has hurt animals. Sometimes a younger sibling is sufficient.

I would hold them by the tail and swing them around. Then I would throw them on barbed wire. I also did this to a guy in my neighbourhood. I think in most likelihood I was very angry because of trauma suffered at the hands of my mother who was mentally ill herself.

So there seems to be some anger. But besides animals, I used to take a small chair and shove it onto my cousin and laughing at him as he cried. Did the same when he was getting beaten up by his parents. Just sat there laughing.

So there seems to have been streaks of sadism with people but not animals. I think I also enjoyed feeling powerful like something was taken away from me.

CopyCat27 wrote:I would hold them by the tail and swing them around. Then I would throw them on barbed wire. I also did this to a guy in my neighbourhood.

You swung a guy around by his 'tail'.. and he also landed on the barber wire? I'm not sure which part of that would be the most painful!

CopyCat27 wrote:So there seems to be some anger. But besides animals, I used to take a small chair and shove it onto my cousin and laughing at him as he cried. Did the same when he was getting beaten up by his parents. Just sat there laughing.

I can relate to being 'cruel' to children as a child myself. Although.. I didn't do it due to anger or a desire to feel power or control. I put my sisters hands on the stove.. she has third degree burns.. I was about 6.. and had no other reason than being very interested in people's emotional responses to various things.

CopyCat27 wrote:So there seems to have been streaks of sadism with people but not animals.

Nothing wrong with sadism towards people! I believe it crosses a line with animals though.. they can't even understand what's happening and they don't experience fear like people do. People experience multiple layers of fear.. where animals only have instinctual survival fear... their lives don't flash before their eyes.

I swung the cats on the barbed wire. Would have been cool to s2ing guys onto barbed wire but I'd say that would take some Herculean feat to achieve hehe.

Good point on sadism. I don't promote it towards people but can understand whybit makes more sense to apply it to them as opposed to animals.

$#%^, third degree burns? Your parents must have been baffled? Let me guess they didn't do anything about it?

Sturm88 wrote:I can relate to being 'cruel' to children as a child myself. Although.. I didn't do it due to anger or a desire to feel power or control. I put my sisters hands on the stove.. she has third degree burns.. I was about 6.. and had no other reason than being very interested in people's emotional responses to various things.

Is that all you did to her or did you do other cruel things to her as well?

When we were little I tried to encourage my brother to touch the hot iron my mother had been using right after she left the room to go grab something. When she got back she caught me and got mad as hell. I thought it would be amusing to watch him burn himself.

I've also kicked him in the balls, whipped him with a bamboo stick and shot him once as a joke.

I was also very manipulative and would make him do things for me, like carry my bag for me all the way up to the bus stop etc. I played cruel pranks on him too at times.

It amused me, lol. It didn't amuse him. That was the point.

CopyCat27 wrote:$#%^, third degree burns? Your parents must have been baffled? Let me guess they didn't do anything about it?

I wasn't punished.. I was taken to Child Psychologists.. nvm.. I was punished.

CopyCat27 wrote:Good point on sadism. I don't promote it towards people but can understand whybit makes more sense to apply it to them as opposed to animals.

I get nothing from sadism towards anything. I used to have an *almost* obsession for wanting to inflict pain or fear in any way I could just to be close to the emotional reaction. It was the only clear connection I could make... intellectually I knew what actions would cause pain and/or fear.. so it was logical to know with certainty their reactions were fear. I wanted to be close to any kind of emotional reaction so I could watch it.

CopyCat27 wrote:I swung the cats on the barbed wire. Would have been cool to s2ing guys onto barbed wire but I'd say that would take some Herculean feat to achieve hehe.

It wouldn't have been the first time someone on here claimed to posses super strength.

Sturm88 wrote:I get nothing from sadism towards anything.

Not even personal amusement?