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Could a person retroactively develop sociopathic traits?

Postby JorgeBergoglio » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:24 pm

What i mean by that is, if someone, in theory, would display most if not all traits reminiscent of serious conduct disorder during early to late childhood, but for one reason or another have them "suppressed" whether that be by.... right, i don't actually remember how, but you get the point. Could they in theory develop sociopathy later in life under such circumstances?

Also on how that "suppression" would happen, maybe due to depression when the dissociative state isn't yet as severe? Maybe the requirement to conform or suffer daily beatings, forcing the (in theory) developing sociopath to obey?

Whether or not this post is self diagnosing, should somebody ask that question, depends on this place's rules :D
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Re: Could a person retroactively develop sociopathic traits?

Postby Reaper » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:26 pm

JorgeBergoglio wrote:What i mean by that is, if someone, in theory, would display most if not all traits reminiscent of serious conduct disorder during early to late childhood, but for one reason or another have them "suppressed" whether that be by.... right, i don't actually remember how, but you get the point. Could they in theory develop sociopathy later in life under such circumstances?

Also on how that "suppression" would happen, maybe due to depression when the dissociative state isn't yet as severe? Maybe the requirement to conform or suffer daily beatings, forcing the (in theory) developing sociopath to obey?


I can't imagine a sociopath suppressing their antisocial behavior under any circumstance at any point in their life because it is technically a disorder based on defiance and non-conformity. The thought process generally works like this: The more you punish me, the more I'm going to defy you and tell you to go fuk yourself.

I'm not sure if depression could suppress the behavior. I know it doesn't in me because, in my case, it usually expresses itself as anger and resentment, which results in a desire to act violently. (I don't experience depression very often)

Certain medications could probably cause suppression, but you didn't mention anything about medication, so that's not relevant anyway. I don't know enough about that anyway to really know.

If you are a sociopath, people close to you (siblings, parents, caregivers, teachers etc) would undoubtedly see your antisocial behavior at some point while you're growing up and likely on multiple occasions, not just later in life.
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Re: Could a person retroactively develop sociopathic traits?

Postby madness00 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:29 pm

Sure, why not?

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Re: Could a person retroactively develop sociopathic traits?

Postby ZombieZ » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:08 pm

Traits yes, I think so especially when you consider the terrible things that can happen to people as they go through life. You could easily become a real prick, but I don’t think a full blown sociopath would be able to suppress his traits in adolescence and puberty when behavior is the most difficult to control and you have less of an understanding of the world and how it works.

A sociopath would use the mechanism he developed at a young age to deal with getting what he needs and is missing from his early life. Just like narcissist use grandiosity to try and gain admiration and attention, which Is a defense mechanism learned from inattentive uncaring parents. A sociopath will learn to use selfish anti social behavior to take care of themselves. A PD is thought to take root in the early stage of life by 5 or6 the latest. After that the personality is developed for the most part and not fragmented or shattered like someone with a personality disorder.
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Re: Could a person retroactively develop sociopathic traits?

Postby JorgeBergoglio » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:14 pm

Reaper wrote:I can't imagine a sociopath suppressing their antisocial behavior under any circumstance at any point in their life because it is technically a disorder based on defiance and non-conformity. The thought process generally works like this: The more you punish me, the more I'm going to defy you and tell you to go fuk yourself.


I do have that train of thought, it's that i'm just too apathetic/lazy to actually act upon it. Like if you for example, wanted something to happen but just felt debilitating boredom thinking about that thing, so you don't actually do it? Something like that. I'm not sure i have depression, but i'm assuming that's it. Also the apathy extends to almost everything in my life, including school. That's why i got kicked out. Apart from the school shooting prank, but i got off with a warning and "true remorse for my actions"

Or the swastika made out of cooking books on the cooking teacher substitute's office's floor

Fun times, if a bit stereotypical for an edgy teenager.

Also i like writing long semi intellectual paragraphs about myself, so i don't know if it's aspd (or future aspd, whatever) or some unholy mix of narcissism.

Reaper wrote:Certain medications could probably cause suppression, but you didn't mention anything about medication, so that's not relevant anyway. I don't know enough about that anyway to really know.


Nope, no meds. Hate having to rely on anything other than myself, if only in an obsessive manner.

Reaper wrote:If you are a sociopath, people close to you (siblings, parents, caregivers, teachers etc) would undoubtedly see your antisocial behavior at some point while you're growing up and likely on multiple occasions, not just later in life.


Yup, pretty sure this happened, back in kindergarten. And at home. But rarely around people like my mom's friends, family members and such. Well, it used to, but now i just smile, nod and talk with a smooth semi nasally voice.

Also, i hate getting into fights, so i do anything to avoid them. I think it's because i assume i'd lose anyways, being the weakest shortest skinniest kid in middle school, in a class of 3 different grades combined (a spec ed class no less, so you can imagine i didn't win a lot of fights. I did sometimes lash out, but those ended with a sprained wrist and ridicule, and having this strange semi-self shame i have (this is a narcissistic trait from what i understand) i didn't exactly have incentives to do so)

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Re: Could a person retroactively develop sociopathic traits?

Postby JorgeBergoglio » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:24 pm

ZombieZ wrote:A sociopath would use the mechanism he developed at a young age to deal with getting what he needs and is missing from his early life.


I don't really care about what i want or need, for some reason. May be the theoretical depression

ZombieZ wrote:Just like narcissist use grandiosity to try and gain admiration and attention,


Well, ###$ this doesn't bode well for my self diagnosis, dun it?

ZombieZ wrote:A PD is thought to take root in the early stage of life by 5 or6 the latest. After that the personality is developed for the most part and not fragmented or shattered like someone with a personality disorder.


Pretty sure that happened. I don't know how, but i remember being a proper ashole. To what extent? I must've blocked it out. I suppose i still somewhat fear consequences. Fear confrontation with people? Maybe is should self diagnose with schizoid next? Or maybe ptsd? I do have a panic inducing fear of vomit and anything that i assume could make me vomit. Don't know why it's that strong, but i do know where it came from.
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