From Cold And Callous To Caring

What's this thread even about?

Just you sucking your own cock?

madness00 wrote:What's this thread even about?

Just you sucking your own cock?

I don't know about sucking my own cock (my phantom penis could probably do with a good sucking though). I generally just prefer to slide my tongue down the blade of my knife. There's something about the feel of cold, hard steel that turns me on.

Fascinating.

Reaper wrote:

justonemoreperson wrote:Do you have any thoughts on this?

Seems to me that there are two aspects to this:

1. Having the feeling of sympathy.
2. Recognising it for what it is.

I'm no doctor, but common sense would tell me that:

1. To feel this, the tracks have to be already laid. In other words, the person must be capable of experiencing the effect so the synaptic pathways have to exist.
2. The person must have had experience of this emotion previously, maybe as early as childhood and possibly forgotten, to be able to recognise it for what it is.

Right, but that doesn't really tell me much. It doesn't explain anything. I don't remember ever feeling empathy or sympathy for anyone in childhood. If I did on some rare occasion and forgot about it, what relevance does that have?

Anyway, I did some searching and found this:

They concluded that psychopathy is not a simple incapacity for vicarious activation but rather reduced spontaneous vicarious activation co-existing with relatively normal deliberate counterparts.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0185106315000074

It seems to indicate that psychopaths do not lack the ability to experience empathy/sympathy, but experience it less often than the average person. If the research is accurate it makes me wonder why some of you here claim to have never experienced it, ever.

I find it interesting because I strongly suspect my experience relates to it, especially since I don't normally feel empathy or sympathy and only do on rare occasions. I strongly suspect I am a psychopath and every time I read something that relates to my own experiences it seems to confirm it, but I'm not accepting the label because I still believe in proper, clinical testing.

Why am I bringing this all up? Because I'm still trying to understand myself. I'd like better understanding of why I do some of the things I do. It's interesting to me.

it does explain stuff

empathy is the ability to understand and feel another's emotional state. sympathy is the ability to appreciate one's emotional state, usually as a result of having gone through a similar experience

think of it like learning maths. from a young age you learn times tables at school, and as an adult you instinctively know basic calculation. it's the same with empathy, except most people have maths forced on them, and it's taken for granted they will develop empathy on their own, with no thought to the environmental influences outside the classroom. in other instances people are just not naturally gifted with numbers due to genetic disposition, and vice versa with emotion, but this is generally not definitive

curious about your perspective...for the sake of argument and based on what you say, obviously you fill the criteria for the word, but why is that interesting? if you think it changes anything, what is it? and if it doesn't, why is it interesting? its like a shark deciding it isn't a fish, because it's a shark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ-LiUNegws

Fool wrote:curious about your perspective...for the sake of argument and based on what you say, obviously you fill the criteria for the word, but why is that interesting? if you think it changes anything, what is it? and if it doesn't, why is it interesting? its like a shark deciding it isn't a fish, because it's a shark

It's interesting to me because I'm fascinated by the human mind and how it affects human behavior (I've always been interested in behavioral science), and my own mind and behavior is more interesting to me than anyone else's.

Reaper wrote:

Fool wrote:curious about your perspective...for the sake of argument and based on what you say, obviously you fill the criteria for the word, but why is that interesting? if you think it changes anything, what is it? and if it doesn't, why is it interesting? its like a shark deciding it isn't a fish, because it's a shark

It's interesting to me because I'm fascinated by the human mind and how it affects human behavior (I've always been interested in behavioral science), and my own mind and behavior is more interesting to me than anyone else's.

if your own mind is the most interesting of all, why are you so convinced it's any different from everyone else? why look for answers in the external world/from other people?

thoughts, habits, feelings etc will be different, but underneath, what's the difference you see between people??

I watched a show called in the defense of Ted Bundy, it was very interesting it was the perspective told by his defense attorney and he revealed a lot of things about Ted that seem at odds with popular belief.

I don’t think anyone would argue he was either a sociopath or psychopath and his lawyer tells a story of when Bundy was arrested after his second escape from jail and it became obvious he wasn’t going to be able to talk his way out of it this time he was overcome with emotions and layed on the cell floor crying for hours as he told his attorney for the first time he killed over a hundred people (Ted words) now he was probably emotional because he knew he was done for and not because of what he did to his victims but he was capable of emotions nonetheless.

The lawyer (I wish I remember his name) also said that Bundy did try and be as charming and likable as he could and it worked on some people but on other he appeared to be odd and strange. He also said he had a few conversations with him where Bundy was acting really crazy talking in codes and referencing things no one knew what he was talking about. He sounded psychotic a few time supposedly and the lawyer recommended a psychological exam but Bundy refused. Anyway short story long, I think it’s safe to assume that not every psychopath or sociopath is going to be the same or be completely without emotions or empathy. Especially more intelligent higher functional ones.

Ok enough from me now.

Z. Over and out>>>>>>>>

Fool wrote:if your own mind is the most interesting of all, why are you so convinced it's any different from everyone else?

Because I've spent 45 years living among people who I've had plenty of time to observe and interact with. This has taught me that I either lack or don't normally experience certain emotions and/or feelings that most others do.

why look for answers in the external world/from other people?

Where else am I supposed to look? It's not like I can just pull this information out of my ass. I'm not an expert on human behavior and I'm not self-reflective enough to look internally (maybe I can look internally to some degree, but I don't usually).

thoughts, habits, feelings etc will be different, but underneath, what's the difference you see between people??

I really don't know how to answer that.

Reaper wrote:
Right, but that doesn't really tell me much. It doesn't explain anything.

Telling you anything is a pointless exercise.

Keep clutching at those straws, "Reaper".

justonemoreperson wrote:Telling you anything is a pointless exercise.

I was quite willing to have a discussion about what you posted if you want to go into further detail, but apparently you think it's pointless. Okay, suits me fine.

Keep clutching at those straws, "Reaper".

How am I clutching at straws. I pointed out something that is relevant to what I've been saying.

I don't know why you have an issue with that.