Manipulation Tactics.

KvotheTheRaven wrote:from that point it is easy to wear a mask that reflects those traits. If they don't already like you, spending some time to get to know them will make what they are looking for obvious and then you can wear a mask based on that from there.

What was your motivation in wearing the mask? What was your objective?

I used to play this game a lot. This year it just hasn't interested me at all. I am playing other games with people.

What kind of other games?

chaman wrote:As a fact, after we formally broke up (on the 14th month) she started going to the psychologist and became very emotionally unstable. i messed her up. Has this happened to any of your relationship partners?

I tend to not to stay in touch with people I break up with. Once I'm done with them I'm done with them and I make that very clear to them in no uncertain terms. So, I don't know how much I affected them after the break up.

Taught myself to look, talk and behave in a particular way so that I can get people on my side very quickly.

Adapt to people's personalities, tell them what they want to hear, make them feel comfortable and eventually trust you..

chaman wrote:Using myself as an example to clarify this thread, i state the following.



When i first met my ex girlfriend, i observed and studied all of her weak spots like daddy issues and etc. and projecting upon her the behaviors she needed to perceive, in order to believe i was "the perfect match", like acting protective, "alpha" but not mean around friends, acting like i opened myself when we were alone, acting the exact manner as how she wanted a guy to be in bed and ETC. basically, i showed her the mask that would make her fall in love the most, and once she was "trapped", i didn´t have to maintain the mask as this wasn´t necessary anymore. this guaranteed me 1 year and a half of good, regular sex.
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Explained above were manipulation tactics + the benefit obtained



i appreciate your responses related to the thread.


Have a good day.

I do this too dude... Why do you think it's a bad thing if you're giving girls the kind of experiences she probably will never have again?

And about hurting girls when you break up with her... honestly it's inevitable. She'll cry, she'll try to incentivize, etc but when it's done it's done. I try to soften the blow as much as possible but it will still happen. such is life

I guess the real question is if the amazing time she had with me outweighs the heartbreak when we brake up. That's why I tell girls i'd make a terrible boyfriend ironically this attracts them more.

Hello RogueKing,

RogueKing wrote:Why do you think it's a bad thing if you're giving girls the kind of experiences she probably will never have again?

Good and bad are terms i havent mentioned here. I hope the girls ive been with may overcome the negative emotions i made them experience. Although, i must admit that i find it pleasurable knowing that i have spoiled them for life, even with positive experiences.

RogueKing wrote: I guess the real question is if the amazing time she had with me outweighs the heartbreak when we brake up.

I would state that it depends on the girl. One could take the breakup as a tragedy, and never truly overcome the experience; other could just move on. If i had to make a guess, my ex´s, specially the last one, are romantically and sexually spoiled for life.

RogueKing wrote:I do this too dude...

Could you explain you personal methods?


Have a nice day.

chaman wrote:Could you explain you personal methods?

Sure. I'll give you some of the main points. I won't give everything because, well this stuff is so powerful I dont like other men knowing too much about it.

But the meat and potatoes for getting women crazy in love with you are:

1. Orgasm-packed sex. If you dont know how to give women back to back vaginal orgasms through penetration then you better learn.

2. Scarcity. Let her be the one chasing you. She needs to begging for you to spend time with her. Remain mysterious, unpredictable, elusive. In order for her to fall in love she needs to feel she's not in control. Be amazing when you spend time with her but dont fully satisfy her. Be her addiction.

3. Operant Condition. This is the art of getting women to behave exactly like you want them to. You do this by using positive reinforcement to reward and encourage her good behavior. And you use negative punishment to discourage bad behavior.(keep in mind when I say punishment im talking about not giving her any attention unless she corrects her behavior. Not actually berating her or something. Although there are times where you'd actually want to get in a verbal fight ). You can also use something called extinction, which is the method of ignoring negative behavior by not reacting to it so it eventually fades.

4. Lastly, Investment. Her investment in you is what will ultimately determine how much she cares about you. Investment meaning the amount of time, resources, and emotions she spends on you. Pump this up as much as possible while still making her feel you care about her. The more the better. Investment is the underlying principle of everything I explained above.

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RogueKing wrote:Sure. I'll give you some of the main points.

Thanks for sharing.

There's a couple of tactics I've used to build my current social network.

I don't think I would go as far to call this a "tactic" but it is extremely useful to navigate social relationships with ZERO enemies. Never take a side. Two people I know are in a feud? Talk to both of them and understand their side, but do nothing to mediate the situation. In fact, add fuel to the fire if possible. For me, that's more of an entertainment factor, but to be the one man left unscathed in the social battlefield is great for your influence and power. It's really easier than you think to avoid direct involvement in all conflicts if you set aside any emotional attachments.

More along the lines of a "tactic" I've often found it very rewarding to play the part of a relatively weak and spineless individual in some social contexts. This has a few purposes, one of which being the fact that most will be much less "on guard" or suspicious of malicious manipulation. I find so many situations where I am saved by the fact that someone feels sorry for me. I can ignore responsibilities and pursue my own goals and brush it off as "I'm sorry, I'm just so distracted after my mom died..."

I’m not really that manipulative. Sometimes I use my lack of focus and flip it around to turn people inside out. That’s the main way and it’s so simple.

chaman wrote:

Reaper wrote:
I do that too, but most of my relationships only lasted about a month or less because I just do it long enough to get what I want out of them, then I ditch them, and I have a habit of not being able to maintain the mask for long, so sometimes they break up with me. I was in two relationships that lasted around two years (each), but they were pretty volatile. They only lasted that long because the sex was great and we were more compatible, sharing similar interests. Plus they were continually beneficial to me financially and materialistically, until things went to shlt anyway. Then I left them.

Chaman, what was the reason you and your girlfriend broke up?

Hello Reaper, i appreciate your detailed response above.

i selected my ex girlfriend because she was open minded and we were very sexually compatible. She being very sexually compatible with me was what i could benefit of. On the other hand, she being open minded meant that she could carry the weigh of unconsciously seeing my mask flip over time. That was about over 3 to 6 months after we started the relationship, and by that time, she would already be "trapped" by her emotions.

After the sixth month genuinely, for any matter of power in the relationship, it was my-way-or-the-highway.

After 14 months, approximately, sex started to get dull and routine. This made me cheat on her more often, and i found myself wasting more energy making up excuses than having actual sex with her. So i found an effective excuse to break up with her, making her believe it was her fault. This situation was optimal for her wanting to come back together, which i took advantage and put us in a "friends with benefits" situation which lasted over 2 months. my strategy was maintaining that kind of "relationship" with her. But during that time we used to fight a lot due to her insecurities and jealousy which annoyed and finally bored me, so i took the decision to dump her for good.

The next fight we had, i end it up stating that we were better separated from each other, which she did not accept. Still, the decision was made. After that event, she became a stalker to me so i blocked her and all her friends from social media and told the guardian of the building of my apartment not to let her in to her anymore. Finally, she got tired of chasing me and dissapeared. in total= 16 months of relationship including time of friends with benefits/ aprox.

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As a fact, after we formally broke up (on the 14th month) she started going to the psychologist and became very emotionally unstable. i messed her up. Has this happened to any of your relationship partners?

This is exactly what I do to guys. It’s way better with guys though because watching a guy cry is like seeing a unicorn, only I get to see it every time I date a guy. It’s so fulfilling. It also makes me happy to know that I am so good at what I do that guys, super attractive model-like guys, are so willing to do anything that I want them to do, even when they know I’m cheating on them. That’s the difference between guys and girls. Guys will be okay with the cheating as long as you stay with them. Girls will get angry. Mostly I use guys for their house, like when I want to go on vacation, or all of the stuff they buy me to get me to like them. I also tell them right away that I’m Christian and I don’t have sex before marriage, so I don’t have to have sex with them for like six months, while I cheat on them or find other guys who have better stuff. After that, they usually find out I’m cheating and I tell them that I just wanted to make sure that they are the one that I wanted by seeing what is out there first, or I say that I want my husband to have the best sex ever when we get married, so I had to practice. I also sometimes just say that the guy is my friend and we never had sex, but pictures don’t lie, so...

They always beg me to stay when I say I understand I they want to break up and then start walking toward the door. I do eventually have sex with them, but I tell them that I was weak and I have to recommit to my faith. Then the next time I want to have sex with them I say the same thing after and that way I only have to have sex when I want to. When I get bored, I just tell them it’s over because of something they did and they cry and then I get mad because I’m jealous of their feelings, even though I love to see them at their weakest. Then if I ever want them back, they are always willing. They go crazy for a bit, but then they get better and start doing things to get me back, like dying their hair green because it’s my favorite color, or pretending we never broke up, or buying me stuff.

Side question: is anyone else jealous of the fact that other people can feel things you can’t? I always want to kill people the most when they taunt me with their ability to feel things. Do they really have to share that with the rest of the world when we have to hide our, much better and more useful, talents from the world? It’s so frustrating that I want to choke them right then and there, whether I’m public or not. I usually just get mad at them and tell them whatever it is doesn’t matter, but that’s because I’m always around guys because girls are too annoying for me. I have two friends who are girls and all of the rest are guys. I’ve only slept with a few of my guy friends, surprisingly, because I only make friends with attractive guys, just in case something happens with us one drunk night. I don’t want to regret anything...