Manipulation Tactics.

Although this questions are mostly referred to NPD´s, ASPD´s or Psychopaths, anybody can participate in the thread.



What are your manipulation tactics? What amoral psychological methods do you use in order to get things done, like sugestion or gaslighting, for example?



i appreciate your answers are related to the thread and very specific, given that this is a very meticulous subject.


Have a nice day.

Using myself as an example to clarify this thread, i state the following.



When i first met my ex girlfriend, i observed and studied all of her weak spots like daddy issues and etc. and projecting upon her the behaviors she needed to perceive, in order to believe i was "the perfect match", like acting protective, "alpha" but not mean around friends, acting like i opened myself when we were alone, acting the exact manner as how she wanted a guy to be in bed and ETC. basically, i showed her the mask that would make her fall in love the most, and once she was "trapped", i didn´t have to maintain the mask as this wasn´t necessary anymore. this guaranteed me 1 year and a half of good, regular sex.
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Explained above were manipulation tactics + the benefit obtained



i appreciate your responses related to the thread.


Have a good day.

I prefer to use threats and intimidation the most because I enjoy doing that the most, but it isn't effective or appropriate in every situation. I'll use either direct threats to intimidate them or veiled threats. I personally find that a good veiled threat can get the message across clearer than a direct threat can (assuming the person isn't autistic and can't read between the lines). It's effective in manipulating another person's actions and, ultimately, the situation.

I've also used...

Anger - to intimidate them and make them do what I want. I will feign anger if I'm not actually angry.
Lies - by throwing blame on someone else and/or playing the victim card. I'll also lie about the situation in question etc.
Flattery/Charm (Seduction) - to get them into a vulnerable position and/or lure them into doing something that I can benefit from either financially or for some other nefarious reason.
Praise - to manipulate them into doing something for me. It's manipulative because it's not genuine.
Denial - to deny that something I did actually happened or to deny my role in it, and/or to avoid taking responsibility.
Emotional blackmail - guilt-tripping mainly. I do that with my daughter a lot. She knows when I'm doing it now though, lol. Usually anyway.
Blackmail/Extortion - I do it by finding personal info on someone they don't want leaked and use it to get what I want.
Coersion - I've used it to have sex with someone drunk who kept saying no to me and in other situations.
Feigned Confusion - to minimize punishment or get out of a situation.
Diversion - to avoid discussing something, or if I want the attention back on me.

I also manipulate conversations to instigate fights at times. I can't think of what that's called. I'll just say whatever shlt I think will piss the other person off. I may not even believe what I'm saying to them (or I may do, it just depends).

I would like to refer you to the following:

The 48 Laws of Power

1. Never Outshine the Master

2. Never put too Much Trust in Friends, Learn how to Use Enemies

3. Conceal your Intentions

4. Always Say Less than Necessary

5. So Much Depends on Reputaion - Guard it with your Life

6. Court Attention at all Cost

7. Get others to do the Work for you, but Always Take the Credit

8. Make other People come to You, use Bait if Necessary

9. Win through your Actions, Never through Argument

10. Infection: Avoid the Unhappy and Unlucky

11. Learn to Keep people Dependant on You

12. Use Selective Honesty and Generosity to Disarm your Victim

13. When Asking for Help, Appeal to People's Self-Interest, Never to Their Mercy or Gratitude

14. Pose as a Friend, Work as a Spy

15. Crush your Enemy Totally

16. Use Absence to Increase Respect and Honor

17. Keep others in Suspended Terror: Cultivate an Air of Unpredictability

18. Do Not Build Fortresses to Protect Yourself - Isolation is Dangerous

19. Know Who You're Dealing with - Do Not Offend the Wrong Person

20. Do Not Commit to Anyone

21. Play a Sucker to Catch a Sucker - Seem Dumber than your Mark

22. Use the Surrender Tactic: Transform Weakness into Power

23. Concentrate your Forces

24. Play the Perfect Courtier

25. Re-Create Yourself

26. Keep Your Hands Clean

27. Play on People's need to Believe to Create a Cultlike Following

28. Enter Action with Boldness

29. Plan All the Way to the End

30. Make your Accomplishments Seem Effortless

31. Control your Options: Get Others to Play with the Cards you Deal

32. Play to Peoples Fantasies

33. Discover Each Man's Thumbscrew

34. Be Royal in your Own Fashion: Act like a King to be Treated like one

35. Master the Art of Timing

36. Disdain Things you Cannot Have: Ignoring them is the best Revenge

37. Create Compelling Spectacles

38. Think as you Like but Behave like Others

39. Stir up Waters to Catch Fish

40. Despise the Free Lunch

41. Avoid Stepping into a Great Man's Shoes

42. Strike the Shepherd and the Sheep Will Scatter

43. Work on the Hearts and Minds of Others

44. Disarm and Infuriate with the Mirror Effect

45. Preach the Need for Change, but Never Reform Too Much at Once

46. Never Appear too Perfect

47. Do Not go Past the Mark you Aimed for; in Victory, Learn When to Stop

48. Assume Formlessness

For a slightly more detailed description, please click:

https://www.tke.org/files/file/The_48_Laws_of_Power.pdf

chaman wrote:Using myself as an example to clarify this thread, i state the following.



When i first met my ex girlfriend, i observed and studied all of her weak spots like daddy issues and etc. and projecting upon her the behaviors she needed to perceive, in order to believe i was "the perfect match", like acting protective, "alpha" but not mean around friends, acting like i opened myself when we were alone, acting the exact manner as how she wanted a guy to be in bed and ETC. basically, i showed her the mask that would make her fall in love the most, and once she was "trapped", i didn´t have to maintain the mask as this wasn´t necessary anymore. this guaranteed me 1 year and a half of good, regular sex.

I do that too, but most of my relationships only lasted about a month or less because I just do it long enough to get what I want out of them, then I ditch them, and I have a habit of not being able to maintain the mask for long, so sometimes they break up with me. I was in two relationships that lasted around two years (each), but they were pretty volatile. They only lasted that long because the sex was great and we were more compatible, sharing similar interests. Plus they were continually beneficial to me financially and materialistically, until things went to shlt anyway. Then I left them.

Chaman, what was the reason you and your girlfriend broke up?

Eurus wrote:I would like to refer you to the 48 Laws of Power:

He's not asking for tips. He's asking what manipulation tactics/techniques you use.

A couple of manipulation tactics I forgot to mention:

Strategic questioning - to get information out of someone. It's a subtle, psychological technique I use to learn things about someone without them knowing my intent. It keeps my agenda hidden.

I'm not really sure what this last technique is called.

I play on someone's weaknesses and/or mental health issues and either create a mental health issue they didn't have or worsen the ones they do have in order to take advantage of them. I use it to create dependency usually in order to keep using them and/or influence them to do something that I can benefit from financially.

I know you wanted examples as well and I might give you some when I have a bit more time. I'm making dinner at the moment and I want to create a couple of new threads later.

Reaper wrote:
I do that too, but most of my relationships only lasted about a month or less because I just do it long enough to get what I want out of them, then I ditch them, and I have a habit of not being able to maintain the mask for long, so sometimes they break up with me. I was in two relationships that lasted around two years (each), but they were pretty volatile. They only lasted that long because the sex was great and we were more compatible, sharing similar interests. Plus they were continually beneficial to me financially and materialistically, until things went to shlt anyway. Then I left them.

Chaman, what was the reason you and your girlfriend broke up?

Hello Reaper, i appreciate your detailed response above.

i selected my ex girlfriend because she was open minded and we were very sexually compatible. She being very sexually compatible with me was what i could benefit of. On the other hand, she being open minded meant that she could carry the weigh of unconsciously seeing my mask flip over time. That was about over 3 to 6 months after we started the relationship, and by that time, she would already be "trapped" by her emotions.

After the sixth month genuinely, for any matter of power in the relationship, it was my-way-or-the-highway.

After 14 months, approximately, sex started to get dull and routine. This made me cheat on her more often, and i found myself wasting more energy making up excuses than having actual sex with her. So i found an effective excuse to break up with her, making her believe it was her fault. This situation was optimal for her wanting to come back together, which i took advantage and put us in a "friends with benefits" situation which lasted over 2 months. my strategy was maintaining that kind of "relationship" with her. But during that time we used to fight a lot due to her insecurities and jealousy which annoyed and finally bored me, so i took the decision to dump her for good.

The next fight we had, i end it up stating that we were better separated from each other, which she did not accept. Still, the decision was made. After that event, she became a stalker to me so i blocked her and all her friends from social media and told the guardian of the building of my apartment not to let her in to her anymore. Finally, she got tired of chasing me and dissapeared. in total= 16 months of relationship including time of friends with benefits/ aprox.

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As a fact, after we formally broke up (on the 14th month) she started going to the psychologist and became very emotionally unstable. i messed her up. Has this happened to any of your relationship partners?

Eurus wrote:I would like to refer you to the following:

The 48 Laws of Power

Hello Eurus,

While Robert Greene´s book is a very valuable piece of information regarding to manipulation, it is not the sharing of this type of material what i intended on this thread. There are many books and pieces of information we could all refer to in another thread. Regarding to this one, the personal perspective of each one of us referring to personal tactics of manipulation using anecdotes and technical concepts is the main approach intended of the thread. feel free to share your thoughts in regards to what has been explained.

Have a good day.

chaman wrote:Using myself as an example to clarify this thread, i state the following.



When i first met my ex girlfriend, i observed and studied all of her weak spots like daddy issues and etc. and projecting upon her the behaviors she needed to perceive, in order to believe i was "the perfect match", like acting protective, "alpha" but not mean around friends, acting like i opened myself when we were alone, acting the exact manner as how she wanted a guy to be in bed and ETC. basically, i showed her the mask that would make her fall in love the most, and once she was "trapped", i didn´t have to maintain the mask as this wasn´t necessary anymore. this guaranteed me 1 year and a half of good, regular sex.
--------------- -------------- ------------- --------------- -------------- ---------------- ----------------



Explained above were manipulation tactics + the benefit obtained



i appreciate your responses related to the thread.


Have a good day.

I’ve pretty much have done this exact thing but my intention wasn’t necessary to just have regular sex or atleast I didn’t think so at the time but I definitely showed them what they wanted to see to win them over knowing it was an illusion.

I don’t really actively engage in manipulation in a pathological sense most of my time, I have at work used friends to turn against other friends who were pissing me off or if someone at work was annoying me like my friend I named coco the monkey (from Seinfeld) just because he kept trying to talk over me in conversations.

I think I used more manipulative tactics when I was very young, I used to lie and tell people that someone did something to get them in trouble if I didn’t like them. I don’t actively do that anymore or I try not too.

chaman wrote:As a fact, after we formally broke up (on the 14th month) she started going to the psychologist and became very emotionally unstable. i messed her up. Has this happened to any of your relationship partners?

All of my long term partners.

I don't really need to manipulate people in order to gain a steady supply of sex. Romantically, I guess manipulation of other people's feelings is just a game to get them to fall in love with me. Once that happens I lose interest.

I don't have a set of rules that I follow. When people like you they project what they like onto you and assume that you fit that category. They usually let you know what they believe makes you compatible and from that point it is easy to wear a mask that reflects those traits. If they don't already like you, spending some time to get to know them will make what they are looking for obvious and then you can wear a mask based on that from there.

I used to play this game a lot. This year it just hasn't interested me at all. I am playing other games with people.