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Re: Self-sabotaging behavior/patterns

Postby ZombieZ » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:34 pm

Yeah, that’s nice... how old are you boy?
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Re: Self-sabotaging behavior/patterns

Postby PavlovsPuddyTat » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:36 pm

ZombieZ wrote:
PavlovsPuddyTat wrote:Is all of this self-sabotaging behavior rooted in the feeling of boredom or are there other reasons?


If that was intended for me, I should say I understand the pattern but I can’t pin point exactly why. I think boredom is a big component but I suspect on some deep level I hate myself and want to destroy myself. That’s really just a hunch I’m not sure but it’s a suspicion


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Are you diagnosed with AsPD? I don't think I have heard the concept of self-hatred be discussed in relation to AsPD. NPD and BPD yes.

Where would that self-hatred come from you think? Upbringing?
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Re: Self-sabotaging behavior/patterns

Postby ZombieZ » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:40 pm

PavlovsPuddyTat wrote:
ZombieZ wrote:
PavlovsPuddyTat wrote:Is all of this self-sabotaging behavior rooted in the feeling of boredom or are there other reasons?


If that was intended for me, I should say I understand the pattern but I can’t pin point exactly why. I think boredom is a big component but I suspect on some deep level I hate myself and want to destroy myself. That’s really just a hunch I’m not sure but it’s a suspicion


The question is open to everyone.

Are you diagnosed with AsPD? I don't think I have heard the concept of self-hatred be discussed in relation to AsPD. NPD and BPD yes.

Where would that self-hatred come from you think? Upbringing?


I was diagnosed ASPD for a court case years ago, I think it was more to do with the nature of the crime and the fact I didn’t show any remorse I got an ASPD diagnosis. I don’t agree with it and personally think I’m a closet narc or covert whatever term you want to use. I have anti social traits but I’m not a sociopath I don’t believe. I think I’m actually a pretty nice guy :D
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Re: Self-sabotaging behavior/patterns

Postby PavlovsPuddyTat » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:43 pm

RogueKing wrote:u dont know why you self sabotage, safe to say youre not figuring it out soon. maybe you wont for the rest of your life. it makes me feel good knowing that you will die living in a cycle of destruction :D


If we all had ourselves figured out, the world of psy-professionals would be out of work, Psychforums wouldn't exist and RK, the sadomasochistic narcissist wouldn't have place to promote his sex appeal to disinterested disordered people - as there wouldn't be any disordered ppl.

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Re: Self-sabotaging behavior/patterns

Postby RogueKing » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:45 pm

ZombieZ wrote:I think I’m actually a pretty nice guy :D

delusions of grandeur ✔

-- Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:47 pm --

it fathoms me how a grown adult has references for a little kid's cartoon. maybe the brain stopped developing after 6? :o that would explain most of the gibberish she speaks.
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Re: Self-sabotaging behavior/patterns

Postby PavlovsPuddyTat » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:50 pm

ZombieZ wrote:
PavlovsPuddyTat wrote:
ZombieZ wrote:
If that was intended for me, I should say I understand the pattern but I can’t pin point exactly why. I think boredom is a big component but I suspect on some deep level I hate myself and want to destroy myself. That’s really just a hunch I’m not sure but it’s a suspicion


The question is open to everyone.

Are you diagnosed with AsPD? I don't think I have heard the concept of self-hatred be discussed in relation to AsPD. NPD and BPD yes.

Where would that self-hatred come from you think? Upbringing?


I was diagnosed ASPD for a court case years ago, I think it was more to do with the nature of the crime and the fact I didn’t show any remorse I got an ASPD diagnosis. I don’t agree with it and personally think I’m a closet narc or covert whatever term you want to use. I have anti social traits but I’m not a sociopath I don’t believe. I think I’m actually a pretty nice guy :D


People get categorized into different disorders so easily. It is also problematic to talk about traits in many cases as they come across as static.

Did you cause some severe damage to another person? Have you ever felt guilt/ remorse in your life?

You seem like a decent guy :)
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Re: Self-sabotaging behavior/patterns

Postby RogueKing » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:54 pm

let's be real here for a minute. Zombie is in his mid-late twentys at least. The brain has fully matured by now and it's habits are hardcoded. Sorry bud, you're like this for life. *mod edit*
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Re: Self-sabotaging behavior/patterns

Postby ZombieZ » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:56 pm

I shot a gun at someone who had a bat, I was initially charged with attempted murder. Then the lead detective interviewed me and believed I didn’t intend to kill anyone(because believe me they’d be dead) so I was formally charged with assault with a deadly weapon, firing into a compact area, domestic vandalism (bullet holes) lmao

No, I didn’t feel any remorse for that or really can’t remember feeling remorse I usually feel justified for anything I do or I wouldn’t do it. I don’t enjoy hurting people at all but when I have I’ve always felt justified in doing so.
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Re: Self-sabotaging behavior/patterns

Postby PavlovsPuddyTat » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:09 am

ZombieZ wrote:I shot a gun at someone who had a bat, I was initially charged with attempted murder. Then the lead detective interviewed me and believed I didn’t intend to kill anyone so I was formally charged with assault with a deadly weapon, firing into a compact area, domestic vandalism (bullet holes) lmao

No, I didn’t feel any remorse for that or really can’t remember feeling remorse I usually feel justified for anything I do or I wouldn’t do it. I don’t enjoy hurting people at all but when I have I’ve always felt justified in doing so.


I don't think remorse should be the sole parameter to look for - they should really consider the concept of justification as well. I doubt a psychopath would bother about justifications for their actions/crimes. Maybe in court but not for themselves. I take it that you justify for yourself and based on that you act.

Do you justify your self-destructive behavior as well ? I don't think it's unusual for ppl to do so. Depends on what has been done I guess. To gamble away ones life calls for some justification I guess - whether it holds the measure is another question !
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Re: Self-sabotaging behavior/patterns

Postby Reaper » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:38 am

PavlovsPuddyTat wrote:Is all of this self-sabotaging behavior rooted in the feeling of boredom or are there other reasons?


For me it's rooted in laziness (not wanting to work and not taking care of my health properly) and a general 'I don't give a fuk' attitude to life. Also being impulsive at times and having low frustration tolerance doesn't help. Sometimes my self-sabotage/self-destructive behavior isn't intentional.
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