PDs have nothing to do with morality

did you know, when you see a psych they don't talk about your behaviour being right or wrong but rather functional, disruptive, etc?

true story.

you want to get told your behaviour is wrong because you want to rail against the oppression of religion like an edgelord?

see a priest.

but even they won't care in this day and age...lol

ya some of the one's i've talked to are some of the most 'progressive' and nonjudgemental people i've ever met.

now swallow those verifiable facts and put a cork in it..

-- Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:52 am --

*oh, and lack of conscience?

it's only a symptom of Aspd because it is thought to explain the behaviour that is diagnostically relevant because it's dysfunctional not immoral

in other words, Aspd isn't a disorder because the behaviour is immoral; it's a disorder because the behaviour is dysfunctional or disruptive, and lack of morals is an explanation for that behaviour, just as lack of empathy is, impulsivity, etc.

lack of morality itself is diagnostic of nothing.

100% agreed.

Morality is irrelevant.

Did you know that one of the earliest definitions of psychopathy was moral insanity? I think that was long, long since discarded, but just tossing that out there.

Also, did you consider that several of the behavioral items that make up ASPD (ICD or DSM) are considered strongly immoral by "functional" people (norms)?

Maybe "right and wrong" don't come up in diagnosis, because psychology is supposed to be science, and "right and wrong" belong to philosophy or religion.

crystal_richardson_ wrote:you want to get told your behaviour is wrong because you want to rail against the oppression of religion like an edgelord?

see a priest.

What came first crystal? The egg or the chicken? Religion just gives people a fake idea of who they are. Now that religion is on its way out psychiatry kinda just takes over and disorder people who have reasons to misbehave.

In some cases of sexual abuse where the victim kinda repeats the behaviour and becomes the abuser later in life, its because they actually enjoyed it and believe their "victim" will too.

What is lack of morals anyway? i have morals, although its "broken". Get it.. its just perspectives. If you and i were the only people on earth would what you have been taught about human behaviour and whats "dysfunctional" or not have anything to say if i jabbed a knife into your hearth? You lost so is it possible that maybe you were the dysfunctional one all along? Have you ever thought your just "asleep"? That you set boundaries that you never dear to cross because people you trust told you to fear crossing them?

religion is social control just like psychiatry.

what of it?

at this level people NEED to be controlled for their own good. our society cannot EXIST let alone progress without these control mechanisms. perhaps people aren't aware of the underlying reason or told up front, but i prefer the bells and lights of Christianity as a means of social control than atheism and guns.

ya, it sucks being lied to but i would rather that than having to be policed by guns everywhere i go because i have no internal sense of right and wrong.

and that's what we're seeing now. more security in schools. more security in airports. just more surveillance because @@@@@@@ like you got to ROCK THE BOAT

OF COURSE RELIGION IS A FARCE BUT CAN'T YOU JUST SHUT UP AND GO ALONG WITH IT??

too late now anyway...boring ass science taken over

you don't have to believe it. i think psychiatry is more practical; mental illness is real. Aspd is a real mental illness - sort of. like REAL Aspd...

so what the fuk is the problem?

-- Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:28 am --

inossak2 wrote:What is lack of morals anyway? i have morals, although its "broken". Get it.. its just perspectives. If you and i were the only people on earth would what you have been taught about human behaviour and whats "dysfunctional" or not have anything to say if i jabbed a knife into your hearth? You lost so is it possible that maybe you were the dysfunctional one all along? Have you ever thought your just "asleep"? That you set boundaries that you never dear to cross because people you trust told you to fear crossing them?

you just proved that it's environmentally relative, which it is.

Aspd IS dysfunctional in that those who are Aspd have maladaptive coping mechanisms given their circumstances.

in places where it's kill or be killed, etc, it's not dysfunctional....where the Aspd grew up it wasn't dysfunctional...etc....that's why they developed it to adapt

functional is relative to environment....NO SH*T SHIRLOCK

Rock the boat? The problem is you want everyone to be like you because you struggle with your own existance. You want everyone to fit your mold of happy and blissful but you never get around to think some of us are UNABLE to get back into the machinery because my whole body reacts with panic if i feel like i don't have freedom. This is my only life and ###$ if i let everyone around me dictate what i'm gona do with it. If i wanna sh*t on your lawn im gona do it cus i can. No god can tell me what to do cus no god exist. To bad i got stuck with a sadistic nature.. i admit its a bad thing and my impulses kinda ###$ up my relationships with people and it gets going in a bad circle. I don't go out of my way to do evil $#%^ like some people expect i do. Most of my nature is jokes and having a good time. Girls find my nature to be sexy so i must be doing something right crystal.

Point is i see people around me with smaller degree of this nature in themselsves alla round me.. so ######6 stop judging me for being "psychopathic" when the lot of you are not better yourselves. No one is innocent.. not even the ones who come off as nice and quiet. They play nice because they are taught its the way to get what you want.. fools

I have no issue with the world becomming more and more cold. It opens up for more acceptance to my wants and needs anyway. But ofc, chanses are i get put in my place alittle more often but i can adapt if it makes me believe in someone or something. I want a purpous thats bigger than me. I want to die knowing i did something great. I don't care if people view it as bad in the moment if they learn from it and grow. There are 100 ways you can justify your misdeeds crystal. Why are you still trying to stick to the "good" ways? Accept that people are $#%^ and you will get over your depression i'm sure.

But this is one side of me speaking.. I'm in limbo more or less all the time. God and evil does not exist in that sense to me. But i don't condone when other people are bad. I just don't let it affect me and ignore it. If someone hurt someone i like i will defend my friends. Its never black and white. I'm not a bad person. Not a good person either and sadly i feel some misplaced pride in being bad. I believe most people do.

-- Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:53 am --

If we find some better way to coexist without having to fear eachother cus we all know how to defend ourselves properly, maybe psychopathic nature will diminish?

-- Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:54 am --

unable to conform to social norms as indicated by repeated crime blabla. You are impulsive because you dont want to conform to it. Might be something in the brain that causes it obviously but whos to say its a bad thing? We need people to break social boundaries cus nothing is supposed to last forever.

I AM NOT GOOD

I DON'T GIVE A FUK EITHER

BUT AT LEAST I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S UP

you're just making up all this crap like oh ya everyone's like me so stop judging me and sh*t....none of it motivated by sense just your desire to have people fuk off your back so you can continue 'having fun'

which isn't even a pd...so i don't know what the fuk half you going on about

i think your problem is you hang around the wrong people with a stick up their ass

WHY

nor do you have to hang aorund criminals...you know there are people inbetween

if you don't want to feel like such a deviant or being judged all the time suck that you need to twist reality to look like how your stick up their ass friends see you than CHANGE FUKING FRIENDS

ME

I DON'T GIVE A FUK ABOUT BEING JUDGED

IT'S JUST MORE NEGATIVE ATTENTION

I LOVE IT

SOAK IT UP SOAK IT UP..

inossak2 wrote:Have you ever thought your just "asleep"? That you set boundaries that you never dear to cross because people you trust told you to fear crossing them?

Yeah, I thought that and then I realized that when I crossed those lines, I felt bad. I felt bad all along actually and was just trying to rationalize away those feelings by telling myself I had the urges, so there was no reason to feel bad. It took a lot of growing up before I realized that listening to my conscience was the best idea and that it would spare me a lot of pain that would come with betraying it.