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Can somebody with ASPD be an animal lover?

Postby thecharger1 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:08 pm

A simple question
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Re: Can somebody with ASPD be an animal lover?

Postby 0430 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:18 pm

I would assume so. I've got no problem harming animals myself, but I'd prefer to hurt a cat over a dog for example. I do like dogs, as I had one when I was a kid and plan on having another relatively soon. Hopefully soon anyway. My fondness for dogs may change after I'm to take care of one myself. End up hanging it because it $#%^ on the floor again.
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Re: Can somebody with ASPD be an animal lover?

Postby thecharger1 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:35 pm

As the very wrong theory that most people think, people with ASPD can not love, and no empathy and the other wrong misconceptions that make people think in a lot other way of them, we know thats not true, ASPD (some) people can "turn it on" and having it. What i want to know is that this love can be done the same way as they love humans? Like in relationships and so on, a family member, the dog. Playing with the dog love fully loving him/her going to outside for a walk (not because its necessarily for the dog because its a social creature and need the walk, but because giving him, the walk, because its feels good, when he/she feel good) and so on Can it be done? Is it possible? Can a psychopath, sociopath love their dog like do the rest? As a family member? As a FRIEND? As their.. .. dog??

It feels terribly annoying when you cant express yourself, hope everyone got what i meant ..
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Re: Can somebody with ASPD be an animal lover?

Postby Pink01 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:40 pm

People with any PD can love an animal but it doesn't mean they will treat them right.

I am not very empathetic to my dog but he is not abused. Not saying I'm AsPD...but my levels of empathy are definitely questionable.

My dog hasn't gone to the bathroom in the house since he's been potty trained. He used to need a leash to go outside and sometimes I would just procrastinate taking him out for hours. (sometimes take a nap lolol)

I do the whole room trapping thing (but non's do this too :lol: ). Sometimes I pick him up while his eating and bop him around the house. Then he goes back to his food and I do it again. Until I got him a fountain type thing my mother came and gave him water. (I used to forget not for an excessive amount of time though) I would come home from work and he would have a little bit left and I'd just forget.

Sometimes if I'm eating something I'll put it right by his mouth and then take it away and ultimately give him jack ass nothing :lol: He won't even get up if I'm eating anything because he knows I'll give him nothing. But he will for anyone and I do mean anyone else.

He never gets walked. but he has bad knees and can't walk very far anyway without needing to be picked up.
That being said I have paid for heat therapy treatments for him and those helped him significantly. He has toys, food, shelter. He likes it here otherwise he would probably run away every time he goes to the bathroom. :? (I have no fence)

So I am empathetic and I'm not. Not abusing him like crazy but not treating him exactly like a dog should be treated/
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Re: Can somebody with ASPD be an animal lover?

Postby 0430 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:47 pm

thecharger1 wrote:As the very wrong theory that most people think, people with ASPD can not love, and no empathy and the other wrong misconceptions that make people think in a lot other way of them, we know thats not true, ASPD (some) people can "turn it on" and having it. What i want to know is that this love can be done the same way as they love humans? Like in relationships and so on, a family member, the dog. Playing with the dog love fully loving him/her going to outside for a walk (not because its necessarily for the dog because its a social creature and need the walk, but because giving him, the walk, because its feels good, when he/she feel good) and so on Can it be done? Is it possible? Can a psychopath, sociopath love their dog like do the rest? As a family member? As a FRIEND? As their.. .. dog??

It feels terribly annoying when you cant express yourself, hope everyone got what i meant ..


Well, I was a child so it's not exactly the same as what I'd be like now, but I considered my dog family when I was a kid. A hell of a lot more than I ever considered my parents family. I took care of him when I could, I spent a significant amount of time with him. He was my best friend for a significant chunk of my childhood.
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Re: Can somebody with ASPD be an animal lover?

Postby Pink01 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:01 pm

This is my second dog. When I was a child I had another dog (I got him when I was 6 or 7) yeah I didn't treat him very well. I could probably count on one hand how many times I played with the dog.

I didn't abuse him though. From my childhood I can't remember any animal abusing. But I also didn't know any dogs/cats. Just significant neglect. My mother took care of that dog. He was only 4 when he died of a back injury.

I was sadistic with bugs. :lol:
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Re: Can somebody with ASPD be an animal lover?

Postby crystal_richardson_ » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:05 pm

I think Aspd have a natural affinity with some animals, like dogs, wolves, coyotes, cheetahs, and hyena.

I think they can relate to these animals in ways they cannot relate to humans, in particular regarding their more primitive mindset.

In many ways, these animals are like psychopaths, and to the extent that we like people or things that are like us, then Aspd can be animal 'lovers', yes.
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Re: Can somebody with ASPD be an animal lover?

Postby thecharger1 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:16 pm

Pink01 wrote:I was sadistic with bugs. :lol:


Detto :lol:

crystal_richardson_ wrote:In many ways, these animals are like psychopaths, and to the extent that we like people or things that are like us, then Aspd can be animal 'lovers', yes.


Same ######6 mindset, i just wanted to create a new thread about wild animals and their brain function about no empathy and easily agressivity, they just have something common with humans with ASPD, they kill a lot of their own race within any feels, but your comment was pretty good i think im done with that topic tho
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Re: Can somebody with ASPD be an animal lover?

Postby Pink01 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:18 pm

yeah my dog definitely looks like one of those

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:lol: :lol:

all those animals are empathetic in their own species typically....

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Same ######6 mindset, i just wanted to create a new thread about wild animals and their brain function about no empathy and easily agressivity, they just have something common with humans with ASPD, they kill a lot of their own race within any feels, but your comment was pretty good i think im done with that topic tho


humans are probably one of the few species, if not the only that feels empathy towards other species

this is mostly because we are a super predator and are in control. if we did not have such control we would not feel empathy for them...

and animals typically don't kill within their own species on purpose...but do fight..

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and also domesticated animals can give off empathy feels sometimes (dogs/cats). My dog will come faithfully sit by me when I'm not feeling good. but what is he thinking? is he concerned he is losing his source of supply?
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Re: Can somebody with ASPD be an animal lover?

Postby thecharger1 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:03 pm

Pink01 wrote:
and also domesticated animals can give off empathy feels sometimes (dogs/cats). My dog will come faithfully sit by me when I'm not feeling good. but what is he thinking? is he concerned he is losing his source of supply?


Well, wild animals i said, dogs are cats are not wild :) But yea i got what you meant :)

Pink01 wrote:humans are probably one of the few species, if not the only that feels empathy towards other species

this is mostly because we are a super predator and are in control. if we did not have such control we would not feel empathy for them...



Pink01 wrote:and animals typically don't kill within their own species on purpose...but do fight..


and you dont even know how ######6 true stuff you just said about the animals :D :D


"Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one who inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it." Mark Twain

Crazy :twisted: :D :D
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