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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby justonemoreperson » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:33 am

MrOmega wrote: there is a Psychopathy sub-forum,


No, there isn't.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby MrOmega » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:36 am

justonemoreperson wrote:
MrOmega wrote: there is a Psychopathy sub-forum,


No, there isn't.


I know...


ASPD is Megalomania anyways, isn't it? Or is it Psychopathy? It's probably Narcissism...

Who knows? Probably the World Organization and Nobody else...

Hitler was definitely a Megalomaniac... I saw this recently... it's fairly interesting... Who were the Psychopaths? Were they victims of Hitler or Mao? Or was Hitler the Psychopath?

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Anyways... my Avatar is a Nazi Criminal... or he was probably one of the Nazi's which was more of a friend to the Allies than he was to the core Nazi philosophy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Rommel

Plot against Hitler
Main article: 20 July plot
There had always been opposition to Hitler in conservative circles and in the Army, the Schwarze Kapelle (Black Orchestra), but Hitler's dazzling successes in 1938–1941 had stifled it. However, after the Soviet campaign failed, and the Axis suffered more defeats, this opposition underwent a revival.

Rommel was approached at his home by Wilhelm Burgdorf and Ernst Maisel, two generals from Hitler's headquarters, on 14 October 1944. Burgdorf informed him of the charges and offered him a choice: he could face the People's Court or choose to commit suicide quietly. In the former case, his staff would have been arrested and his family would suffer even before the all-but-certain conviction and execution. In the latter case, the government would assure his family full pension payments and a state funeral claiming he had died a hero. Burgdorf had brought a capsule of cyanide for the occasion. After a few minutes alone, Rommel announced that he chose to end his own life and explained his decision to his wife and son.

The official story of Rommel's death, as initially reported to the general public, stated that Rommel had either suffered a heart attack[85] or succumbed to his injuries[86] from the earlier strafing of his staff car.



Apparently the guy was all war and all war in an ethical way... you can't win that can you?

During Rommel's time in France, Hitler ordered him to deport the country's Jewish population; Rommel disobeyed. Several times he wrote letters protesting against the treatment of the Jews. When British Major Geoffrey Keyes was killed during a failed commando raid to kill or capture Rommel behind German lines, Rommel ordered him buried with full military honours. Also, during the construction of the Atlantic Wall, Rommel directed that French workers were not to be used as slaves, but were to be paid for their labour.[104][e]



As for the Mao, and Stalin psychopaths... yeah the Gulags, and whatever cultural revolution... I'd say it was the psychopaths following beliefs to a TEE... that killed everyone, not necessarily the narcissists or the megalomaniacs.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby zugzw4ng » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:42 pm

justonemoreperson wrote:The problem with having a diagnosis is that, once people know, all of your human rights disappear.

My first wife was on one of these forums, spouting off about how sh1t her life was, all because of me. No one mentioned her personal responsibility to take control of her own life. Once you have a diagnosis you're always the one to blame - even for the stuff that has nothing to do with you.

The sites like this are pointless, as the sort of women who want to get bullied and pushed around by the likes of me will let themselves do it because their very nature is that they don't make good decisions.


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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby Daisy321 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:00 pm

I can relate to some of the things you are saying. I have been on psychopathic forum's where many women and MEN have joined to ask for help but in reality they are just dating an unhealthy individual. I had been in need for advice and read sad stories from ppl whom claim to be dating a psychopath but they are just dating a nasty individual. It can be frustrating if you have experience with a diagnosed Psychopath and know the difference. In my experience of my psychopath, his nearly always extremely calm but rage is dangerous and mainly triggered from control, self-serving or damage to superiority. (Not driven by emotions). His violence was carried out in a different business like..... calm way but I won't discuss this now.
However, I understand some people haven't had that experience but it's nice to listen to them. Although their partners have not met the criteria of a psychopath you or I have met, many abusive men have similar traits. So help them along the way if they are experiencing bad times. Let's help them not experience any abusive or psychopathic man/women.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby crystal_richardson_ » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:03 pm

ya psychopath is basically a catch all on those sites

i mean even on this forum there is no agreement on what a psychopath is, everyone's idea of it tends to reflect their purpose for even delving into the area - whether bad relationship, self-diagnosis, or analysis of history/public figures - only when you start slotting people into their respective category of intent for getting involved in the subject matter can any patterns emerge

and in the end you realize that it is not that no valid or clear idea of psychopathy exists - and when you work your way up from basics of mental illness it's obvious what it is in accordance with the psychiatric purpose of labels - but rather many different vested interests dictate that it remain obscure for the myriad purposes of the masses, and there is simply not incentive to pin it down despite this being easily within our grasp

people will ultimately disagree with what is personally not useful
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby Contrast » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:19 pm

Is psychopathy a modern boogeyman?
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby caspin » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:40 pm

Glue wrote:
justonemoreperson wrote:The problem with having a diagnosis is that, once people know, all of your human rights disappear.

My first wife was on one of these forums, spouting off about how sh1t her life was, all because of me. No one mentioned her personal responsibility to take control of her own life. Once you have a diagnosis you're always the one to blame - even for the stuff that has nothing to do with you.

The sites like this are pointless, as the sort of women who want to get bullied and pushed around by the likes of me will let themselves do it because their very nature is that they don't make good decisions.


This in a nutshell. The people who like to paint themselves as victims are truly the "psychopaths" here more than anyone, their selfish need to pass blame on, to free themselves from guilt, what better person to blame everything on than the one person they know can take it?
My mother had gotten wise to this, she would normally blame me for every failing in the house, missing money, broken obects around the house etc etc. Disguising her obvious accusations with "well intentioned reasoning," to conclude it couldn't have POSSIBLY been anyone else.
If i took the money I would say, if i broke something i would say, not to clear my conscience but because those things don't register as something i need to lie about. It would be akin to me leaving money somewhere and being asked if it was mine and then lying about it.

Victims who do it to themselves, and assume every man or woman who has used them or abused them, fits the profile of a psychopath.

A quick search for "Identifying a psychopath" yields some hilarious results. They seem to be written as a spy novel, "The psychopath makes his way into your life, he feeds off you...." Blah blah blah,
as though this is a standard to be measuring ALL those who fit into the category one way or another.
We have a name for that, it's called stereotyping, it is a bigoted view from people who happen to make up the majority, and they call us the monsters. Frankly they all deserve it.

I have heard and read about how people who are like each other in some form finds each other on a more deep level. Might be something in it, I remember my ex also called me a narcissist even before I knew what it was.So it isnt just blame can be true too but then there are people like my own mother who blame everything on everyone else then her self.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby Quoth » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:05 pm

Contrast wrote:Is psychopathy a modern boogeyman?

Well the term derives from pathological psychological inferiority
Which became psychopathic inferiority
Then simply psychopathy
Or so Theodore Millon tells me, which I guess means in some ways people are right, it could be used as a catch all.

Personally I think NPD gets the bogeyman status, psychopathy is a bit more like modern concepts of vampires, evil but also cool and sexy.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby crystal_richardson_ » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:55 pm

i would say psychopathy is still most popularly associated with serial killers, and rightfully so as they clearly exemplify the condition, not just due to the 'extremity' of the behavior (killing people and stuff) but just everything about what being a serial killer implies

the sense of isolation, being obsessed with killing and power and control of that sort, the evident lack of empathy and whatnot in so closely ending and sometimes torturing victims

many people kill, like int he army, etc, but it's impersonal and easily rationalized and typically not an expression of an addiction

but everything about serial killing, apart from like psychotic serial killers, demonstrates the key features of psychopathy plainly and as a self-destructive disorder
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby justonemoreperson » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:53 pm

@Crystal

Inasmuch as it does if applied correctly, I agree.

The issue is that, once something becomes so horrific that it can't be easily understood by people in general, the term is applied, even if the driving force is something else.
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