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Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby slither » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:26 am

What do you think of the support forums meant for victims of alleged psychopaths?

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(in case tl;dr, this is just filler you don't need to read to answer my question)

Most of them appear to me to be of women that were abused by extremely narcissistic, immature, and mentally ill men. They refer to them all as psychopaths, and in an abbreviated form known as "the p", or sometimes "the n" for narcissist.

They say things like "all psychopaths are asexual", then "all psychopaths are bisexual and promiscuous" and "they all seem to be fixated on anal", or my personal favorite: "they're all the same entity, just in many bodies".

The point I'm getting at is that they seem to be just describing manipulative immature and abusive men, and that they just like to refer to them all as psychopaths. They're essentially making a boogey man out of the term, as if they're everywhere.

I'm not saying I subscribe to the "only Hannibal Lecter types are true psychopaths" nonsense, but my research tells me that psychopaths don't really do these things that the women describe, at least not when the psychopath is well adjusted. It seems an equally damaged "normal" person could do these things.

So, to me it appears to be just a circle jerk of sad, confused and abused people huddling together to lump all of these qualities into a single type of person, when in fact what they describe doesn't really sound like what they attribute these behaviors to at all. I'm obviously not qualified to diagnose anyone or even formally educated on the subject, but I suspect a colorful spectrum of DSM disorders are responsible for most of the abuse, not just the overly villainized psychopath.

Labels seem important to the people on this forum. I want to know what you think of the blatant over generalizations people make when they can't fully understand something.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby MrOmega » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:27 am

Oh... a worthyness litmus test...

I'm sorry... did you have anything useful to share, like perhaps an article by a real intelligent journalist or psychologist?

Labels seem important to the people on this forum. I want to know what you think of the blatant over generalizations people make when they can't fully understand something.


Well, I'll be compassionate. I don't believe that anyone fully understands a label or stigmatization that is carried through cultures.

They say things like "all psychopaths are asexual", then "all psychopaths are bisexual and promiscuous" and "they all seem to be fixated on anal", or my personal favorite: "they're all the same entity, just in many bodies".


Yeah, people ride words like rails sometimes... that's the way it is... whatever someone perceives, they assume the filter of their beliefs system grants them the holiest of holiest truth on the matter.

I don't fully understand it myself.

Labels seem important to the people on this forum. I want to know what you think of the blatant over generalizations people make when they can't fully understand something.


I believe the word is Grandoise, and I like it...
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby Yurippe » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:33 am

Oh, it was all me. I've broken the hearts of all those people and yes I am asexual and bisexual and I feel terribly bad for it. Take your assumptions elsewhere.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby MrOmega » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:36 am

Yurippe wrote:Oh, it was all me. I've broken the hearts of all those people and yes I am asexual and bisexual and I feel terribly bad for it. Take your assumptions elsewhere.


So a fairy tale, that's the same thing as an assumption?

Or a legend, or a myth, or perhaps, fable, or rumor.

I don't mind it so much, I am simply not an enforcer of knowledge.

People are free to think what they want, so long as they don't enforce it on me.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby Yurippe » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:39 am

MrOmega wrote:So a fairy tale, that's the same thing as an assumption?


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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby slither » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:42 am

It's just this strange phenomena seen everywhere. I'm guilty of it too, but it seems normal people are far more susceptible to it.

MrOmega wrote:
Yeah, people ride words like rails sometimes... that's the way it is... whatever someone perceives, they assume the filter of their beliefs system grants them the holiest of holiest truth on the matter.

I don't fully understand it myself.

Precisely.

What do you think of the psychopaths "everywhere" campaigns, such as "the psychopath test" where we're to believe they're our presidents, CEOs, lawyers, surgeons, Navy seals, etc?

It makes sense that they could be an "inter species predator", both beneficial and devastating in small numbers, etc. They really only get to study the violent psychopaths, as the ones that go undetected are never included in the research. It skews the public perception of what it is to be one. And when you have forums to support "psychopath victims", it spreads the ignorance.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby katana » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:44 am

slither wrote:What do you think of the support forums meant for victims of alleged psychopaths?


That they see psychopaths everywhere and I don't tend to read them. A long time ago I sent a question to one of them and I got accused of bouncing off my own ISP :lol:

slither wrote:or my personal favorite: "they're all the same entity, just in many bodies".

you what? :lol:

slither wrote:The point I'm getting at is that they seem to be just describing manipulative immature and abusive men, and that they just like to refer to them all as psychopaths. They're essentially making a boogey man out of the term, as if they're everywhere.


Yeah pretty much.

slither wrote:I'm not saying I subscribe to the "only Hannibal Lecter types are true psychopaths" nonsense, but my research tells me that psychopaths don't really do these things that the women describe, at least not when the psychopath is well adjusted. It seems an equally damaged "normal" person could do these things.


I get you on what you're saying and agree.

slither wrote:I suspect a colorful spectrum of DSM disorders are responsible for most of the abuse, not just the overly villainized psychopath.


Very likely.

"All abusive men are psychopaths" "All abusive women are borderlines"

Yurippe wrote:Oh, it was all me. I've broken the hearts of all those people and yes I am asexual and bisexual and I feel terribly bad for it. Take your assumptions elsewhere.


Shut up and stop talking to yourself/ourselves/myself/theirselves. :lol:
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby Tempo » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:47 am

slither wrote:What do you think of the support forums meant for victims of alleged psychopaths?


They're pretty amusing.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby Yurippe » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:48 am

katana wrote:
Yurippe wrote:Oh, it was all me. I've broken the hearts of all those people and yes I am asexual and bisexual and I feel terribly bad for it. Take your assumptions elsewhere.


Shut up and stop talking to yourself/ourselves/myself/theirselves. :lol:


I should really stop self abusing in the katana account. I think I might have low self esteem :(

On another note I find the public ignorance about psychopaths do be pretty beneficial to me.
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Re: Psychopath "Victim" forums

Postby MrOmega » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:50 am

Yurippe wrote:
MrOmega wrote:So a fairy tale, that's the same thing as an assumption?


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Yeah...

Babes in Toyland... does it mean anything?

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/distr ... uena-Vista

They are Pretty Women though, so that's a bonus... right out of the 60s.
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