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Antipsychotics and Non Compliance

Postby edgnbd » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:48 am

One of the biggest problems in psychiatry from the psychiatrist's point of view is patient's non compliance with medication. Having been in the system for several years as a patient it is something that I have come to have an understanding of.

From the early stages I realised that the antipsychotics were no more than a tranqualiser with very bad side effects. I quickly realised that they were not going to alter my thinking which is sound anyway. Therefore the obvious thing to do is do cease the medication. I suspected that this would be the case for most people. Recently I came across some research into non compliance that looked at efficacy and tolerability, so they no that these are the two reasons that people do not want to take the drugs. Unfortunately they are so motivated to medicate you that they invented the depot injection, giving you no choice.
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Re: Antipsychotics and Non Compliance

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:13 pm

Withdrawal reactions are systematically ignored in psychiatric drug treatment or research and they usualy represent the worst part of drug treatment cause these reactions will often closely resemble the original symptoms for which the drug was prescribed in the first place, and are usualy taken for a return of these symptoms (a "relapse"), rather than for withdrawal effects.With antipsychotics and non compliance I realize that a doctor or the researcher is likely to interpret any reactions as a sign that the "illness" is chronic and that the drugs are "effective."

You are better off having a “psychotic” episode in outer Mongolia than in the U.S. Why? Because third-world countries have better recovery rates for so-called “schizophrenia” or "bipolar" than the United States and other rich nations that keep their psychiatric patients “maintained” on the drugs. In the United States, one “psychotic” episode will almost always land you in psychiatric wasteland for the rest of your life. It is psychiatry itself that created the “chronicity” in so-called “mental illness”.

I also understand that once I have been taking drugs for months or years, I will have much difficulty to find a health professional to assist me in withdrawing prudently and safely from the drugs, if I so wish.

Having understood the above, I realize that the drug treatment may cause severe pain or discomfort, worsen my existing problem significantly, or even damage me permanently. However, most doctors or experts will never formally or informally acknowledge that the drug harmed to me in this manner. I will have almost no chance of proving that the drug caused my damage and obtaining compensation.

Luckly for me, I found out the truth about psychiatry from a survivor who told me about http://www.mindfreedom.org and from there I read books like http://www.madinamerica.com/2011/11/anatomy-of-an-epidemic/

I had already figured out the withdrawal reactions are called the illness itself cause I am a zyprexa victim, http://www.zyprexa-victims.com cause when I went to the hospital sick, there solution was more zyprexa to treat symptoms I never had BEFORE taking it. I fell for the "take it for 6 months" lie.

These depot injections an abuse of human rights http://psychrights.org/index.htm

One more link for anyone who reads this excellent topic, thanks edgnbd !!

Do Rebels Who Defy Treatment Do Better? “non adherence” often saves us...
http://beyondmeds.com/2012/05/04/noncompliance/
I survived psychiatry.
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Re: Antipsychotics and Non Compliance

Postby Ian Reynir » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:01 pm

I also had difficulty finding doctors who were interested in weening me off of meds. One doctor told me that if you've been hospitalized more than once, it is impossible to ever get off of meds. Well, I went three times to the hospital (every time I checke myself in). I was in bad shape each time and the struggle back to sanity was never easy. But then the strangest thing happened. I got off of meds about a year ago. I haven't had any symptoms - so much for that doctor!

The biggest problem that i found in is the lack of good books by authoritive doctors that discuss how to "re-order" any "dis-orders". The medical community seems convinced that disorders are "illnesses". I really hate that because they can't just say something if they can't prove it. There is NO journal article out there that claims to have proven a physiological cause for any mood disorder. None. That should be public information.

I know that doctors are worried about one thing more than anything, that is, self-preservation. If they take the risk to reduce/eliminate meds, then its on them. Thus doctors don't have incentives to do this. Honestly, I wonder how long they would keep their licence if they did!

I proposed an idea about what is "out-of-order" for bipolar disorder. Feel free to pm me if you wish to know more...
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Re: Antipsychotics and Non Compliance

Postby n0body » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:35 am

I was forced on antipsychotics in the past. They are chemical torture and that why I'd rather hear voices and other psychosis than have them in my body. I would rather be crazy. I never want them again. They make me feel like cutting my neck in half or jumping out a window in a skyscraper or off a cliff. They are so awful and they DAMAGE
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