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but we're not suppose to be this way

Postby Anxious58 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:26 am

No one is bad. No one was born to have the problems that they do. No one should be anxious or depressed. No one needs to murder, or harm others. People aren't bad. How can u look at people and say they are evil. They aren't evil. Society made them the way they are. No one on the earth is evil.

Pretend someone murders your child. Are you made at them? Why? It's not their fault. Anything that anyone has ever done is societies fault. Society creates the monsters - in ways too subtle for you to guess. Do you believe that if people are treated right that they will kill?
No one ever looks to see why the people really do evil.

Yet instead of researching the causes for mental disorders/illness they only research the treatment.

What if society was better. It could be. We can make it better but people don't think it's possible.

What if society didn't require us to work 10 hours a day to fuel mindless consumerism? We put work into making crappy products that end up in land fill. Anyway that's more complex I won't continue that train of thought here.

What if psychiatry was a science and not an ideology as it is now. Heck, what if the whole medical industry became a science and not partially science and partially ideology?

So why am I mad at people who harmed me? why do I hate? I said it's not their fault.

I know how things could be if we tried to make them better, and I see all of the evil, the evil that you can't, yet it's right in front of you.. The evil that doesn't have to be - but you protect it.
Why do you protect the system that destroys us all?


I am mad because no one listens or understands. I hate everyone because they fuel the system. It doesn't matter that they were brought up to support every evil in the world. They crush me every single day of my life, un-intentionally or not.
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Re: but we're not suppose to be this way

Postby In-Some-Niak » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:41 am

"[...]Nature needs vice as much as she needs virtue, she directed me towards the first
when she found it expedient, and when she had need of the second, she filled me with the
appropriate desires to which I surrendered equally promptly." - Donatien Alphonse Francios de Sade/the Marquis de Sade (A Dialogue between a Priest and a Dying Man)
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Re: but we're not suppose to be this way

Postby Supersaneman » Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:29 pm

Anxious58 wrote:No one is bad. No one was born to have the problems that they do. No one should be anxious or depressed. No one needs to murder, or harm others. People aren't bad. How can u look at people and say they are evil. They aren't evil. Society made them the way they are. No one on the earth is evil.

Pretend someone murders your child. Are you made at them? Why? It's not their fault. Anything that anyone has ever done is societies fault. Society creates the monsters - in ways too subtle for you to guess. Do you believe that if people are treated right that they will kill?
No one ever looks to see why the people really do evil.
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People are born to have psychological issues. It's hereditary and a very important part of adapting to new conditions. Also useful for humanity as a whole by contributing new ideas,

Every living thing needs to murder other living things to survive and reproduce successfully. Nowadays there are legal alternatives to killing people like sponsoring birth control, campaigning to stop immigration and the welfare state. But you still have to kill your food and have your body kill parasites.

The way I see it, murdering kids is a much lesser crime than killing adults. If a woman murdered a kid I'd fathered, I'd be satisfied if she let me father a kid with her, assuming I didn't have to raise it, pay for it and she didn't cause it's death.
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