"Suicide: A civil right"

i found a very interesting article while i was surfing the internet the other day. it was an article that said that suicide should be a right to people. man should be able to own his life and he should not be incarcerated when he starts to think or attempt suicide. i think that you should read this article and it will make you think.

http://www.antipsychiatry.org/suicide.htm

Agreed.

The right to top oneself should be considered a right anterior to even what are considered basic rights, like the right to vote. Yet putting to one side the issue of whether there is a right, the simple facts are that psychiatry, and the tools and the knowledge it employs to deal with this issue, are not good enough, and anyway, it is sheer hubris of the profession to think that it has the tools to deal adequately with this problem. Do these people think they are existential alchemists or something, capable of turning the base materials of existence into gold? The very drugs they force suicidal people to take are implicated in creating the psychological and emotional preconditions favourable for the enactment of suicide!

On top of all that, what is locking someone up in one of these nominal hospitals supposed to achieve, where the patient is exposed to the rigors of ward life, the perpetual encroachments upon one's autonomy, where every action is circumscribed within the limits imposed by the oppressive behavioral code governing ward life; where the patient is subjected to the rituals of degradation; where one is deprived of legal recourse for one's rapidly accumulating grievances; where one's fate is left in the hands of a bunch of immature, incompetent, morally irresponsible people labouring under the delusion that they are carers and not jailers and who are wholly inadequate to shoulder the responsibilities and powers myopically entrusted to them?

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Cledwyn Bulbs wrote:On top of all that, what is locking someone up in one of these nominal hospitals supposed to achieve, where the patient is exposed to the rigors of ward life, the perpetual encroachments upon one's autonomy, where every action is circumscribed within the limits imposed by the oppressive behavioral code governing ward life; where the patient is subjected to the rituals of degradation; where one is deprived of legal recourse for one's rapidly accumulating grievances; where one's fate is left in the hands of a bunch of immature, incompetent, morally irresponsible people labouring under the delusion that they are carers and not jailers and who are wholly inadequate to shoulder the responsibilities and powers myopically entrusted to them?

Been through all of the above after psychiatric drugs made me sick in the first place.
I was sick for a few years after falling for the fraud of psychiatry and taking all those different pills and saw what goes on behind the locked doors of inpatient psychiatry a few times. One thing I can tell you is that like 99 out of 100 people subjected to inpatient psychiatry are not suicidal, accused of this or not but everyone is subjected to "suicide precautions" anyway. I guess to add insult to injury after the naked strip search by a stranger standing barefoot on the dirty hospital floor to ready the person for an "accurate" mental health assessment for there insurance company.

People who don't like lockups and abuse quickly learn to say no ! forcefully when asked "do you feel like hurting yourself" and the staff knows this and assumes most everyone is lying just to get out of the abusive hellhole. The whole thing turns into a game to get out, almost everyone lies about how they feel and most who will swallow what ever brain disabling chemical those quacks call treatment and submit to "mouth checks" just to get out. If you don't the standard operating procedure for "medication noncompliance" is to make threats of injections (chemical rape) and long term lockup in the state hospital.

I guess I'm off topic, but this abuse makes many people suicidal and prevents many more from ever seeking "help" ever again after they learn what "help" really means when describing inpatient psychiatry. I can't think of anything worse than this abuse, lockup, strip searches, threats and needle/pill rapes in a time of crisis. The worst is those "help me" phone calls people make on the hospital phones to there families and there reaction when the families reject them and believe this abuse is "help" over the pleas from loved ones. They make many suicidal who were not before.

Spot on, Copycat. Psychiatry doesn't prevent suicide, it promotes suicide. People kill themselves all the time in these places. I probably would have done myself if in the "hospital" I was in it wasn't pretty much impossible to do so.

A person posed on the juncture between life and death most certainly does not need to be surrounded by a bunch of insincere quacks and their lackeys who, despite their cant to the contrary, their professions of compassion, are not your friends, and not people you have any sort of intuitive affinity with, forged from a similarity of beliefs, experiences, interests etc. They couldn't give a toss, and a person suspended between life and death tends to see through man's insincerity and deception much more easily anyway, because they have lost all their illusions about life, and are so physically and mentally fatigued and spent, they can no longer deceive themselves in the way we humans do so easily. Proximity to death sensitizes a suicidal person to all the hypocrisy, insincerity and mendacity that man is heir to.

The problem is, this is an issue that tends to appeal more to the viscera than intellect. Any mention of the term brings in its trail powerful emotions that overwhelm our capacity for clear, rational thought. They say, "a compassionate society doesn't allow people to kill themselves", to which I always respond, "when we live in a compassionate society, maybe we can continue this debate." People also tend to refract the world of the suicide through the prism of their own experiences and feelings, as if just because life seems good for them, this renders incomprehensible the act of suicide. We end up making people a victim of our infantile, inane fantasies about "the wonder of life and existence" and our equally absurd fantasies about psychiatry and its function. In our age, the reality of each of the foregoing has been distorted beyond recognition. No amount of evidence to the contrary can convince the selfish "anti-suicide" brigade that there is nothing compassionate about locking up suicidal people in psych wards, where for the past two hundred years some of the most lurid and barbaric "treatments" have been meted out, acts worthy of inclusion in the category of crimes against humanity.

As for all the degradation and humiliation you allude to in the last paragraph, do these people understand nothing about human nature? Humiliation begets violence. People are rarely ennobled by humiliation, it unleashes an uncontrollable rage and hatred of the source of the intense emotional unpleasantry and trauma that humiliation entails. If you can't concentrate your rage on your oppressor, you turn it against yourself, which is one of the reasons why suicide is common in these places.

As Strindberg once said, "Life is so cynical, only a swine can be happy in it. And anyone who can see our ugly life as beautiful is a swine."