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The shonkiness of the MMPI-2

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Re: The shonkiness of the MMPI-2

Postby InterestedObserver » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:37 pm

Little Boy Lost wrote:lol the first question has nothing to do with aspd. they are expecting you to say that you do have thoughts you can't talk about. it is considered normal and honest to say you do. saying you don't ever have thoughts that are too bad to talk about is the abnormal response and it increases your score on the scale that's designed to measure unrealistically wonderful self presentation.

of course, they mean too bad to talk about in a general sense. maybe you know someone whom you feel you can tell your worst thoughts to and that person won't judge. that's cool but a reasonable person will still say he has thoughts that are too bad to talk about because he can't mention them to anyone except for that one exception.

a person may not be able to stop crying because he's sad or he may laugh so hard that he can't stop in an instant. that is obviously not what they mean. they are saying you're laughing and crying at the same time. they don't mean that you're laughing so hard that you started to tear up, either. a "fit" is an episode during which you are unhinged, affectively dysregulated, manic, etc. having that happen is really not normal and it is a clinically relevant indicator of a potential disorder.

this test said i had moderately elevated hypomania, but none of the other major scales were elevated and neither was the superlative self presentation scale.

the paranoia scale is a good discriminator of hypervigilant defensiveness, excessive suspiciousness of others, and being terribly self righteous. people who score high usually aren't lacking in paranoid traits, but one thing about paranoia is that the ones suffering from it tend to deny it and discredit anyone who tells them how paranoid they really are. high scores on the schizo scale make communication difficult. if you honestly gave your answers and it was high, you're probably on a different wave length than others, but certainly not necessarily psychotic. probably not, but with some elevation on the schizo spectrum. one of the first problems that doesn't require you to be crazy or anything like that is having some communication problems. you may say things that fly right by others who just think what you said is odd or you may get confused and misinterpret verbal communications that others seem to get pretty easily somehow. this can happen because you have trouble focusing and reach hasty conclusions that are off the mark, i mean exactly what you did in this thread. you didn't interpret the laughing and crying question correctly, it wasn't that vague, tbh. there were indicators that they were talking about what i described. you just didn't pick up on them.

you interpreted the one about bad thoughts very defensively, thinking they are out to get you by getting you to say you have bad thoughts so they can say you have aspd. the self righteousness and unrealistically pure and good facet of the paranoia scale is obvious in your contrived example of why it may be ok to have bad thoughts that you can't talk about. normal people think about rape and murder occasionally. that's ok and doesn't mean there's anything wrong with them.




It took you awhile to get back Little Boy Lost. Were you busy researching a response? I'm not a big fan of psychological tests and haven't taken a keen interest in them but obviously you have. I still don't think your conclusions are necessarily valid - they're still subjective responses. If put in the situation and forcibly made to answer these silly questions, how many people would honestly reply 'yes' to the first instance I posited? ('Once in a while I think of things too bad to talk about'). I doubt very many people at all unless they were knaive fools who opened up to everyone. So it measures 'unrealistically wonderful self presentation'. So what's your point? It's still a shonkey question likely to be greeted with a shonkey answer thereby invalidating the question itself as a valid measure; if we were all made to answer that question most people would answer 'no'. Does that mean they all have 'unrealistically wonderful self-preservation'? I doubt it.

"a person may not be able to stop crying because he's sad or he may laugh so hard that he can't stop in an instant." You argue against me saying I misunderstand their point. Well, that's been my point all along. These questions are too open to misinterpretation.

Talking about the paranoia scale, well actually I have been the victim of a vicious hate campaign orchestrated by journalists after the Wall Street Journal plagiarised, word for word, some of my writing about economics in their chatroom. They attributed my writing to the Nobel-prize winning economist Anna Schwartz. The harrassment began when I contacted an Intellectual Property Rights lawyer I know asking about my IP rights (they were hacking my computer I was told) - they thought Australia was up for another Leveson enquiry... That involved cars following me around, Van Eck Phreaking of all of my digital equipment, my phone being bugged etc. I have many witnesses to this so before you tell me it didn't happen I'll tell you a paraniod rarely shares their delusions with a multitude of others. To reiterate, I have many witnesses to all of the above. Prior to their harrassment, I didn't even know people could Van Eck Phreak, just as an example.

Finally, I don't think about rape or murder EVER, other than in absolute disgust when incidents are brought to my attention.

I've now answered your many criticisms of my original comment and continuing commentary.

Regards,
Emma

-- Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:41 pm --

To add Little Boy Lost,
Why have there already been 407 views of this thread?
It's not as though vast numbers of people in here are wondering about the shonkiness of the MMPI-2 given I've only had the same 3 people responding....
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Re: The shonkiness of the MMPI-2

Postby InterestedObserver » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:49 pm

I should also say, Little Boy Lost, that when I answered I answered completely honestly. My evil thoughts were never about killing or raping; just destroying the people who have done so much damage to me. In a mental health setting I'd never have answered the way I did unless I was completely assured my practioner believed me regarding the bullying I've suffered at the hands of sick journalists.
Having added a mitigating factor, it really DOES go to show how dodgey these tests are.

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Re: The shonkiness of the MMPI-2

Postby InterestedObserver » Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:01 pm

It just occured to me that I answered 'yes' to the first question anyway - though I wouldn't have done that in a psych setting. As I said in my first post '...I'm just quickly skimming through looking for semantic flaws.....' That was after answering the test VERY literally - more to prove a point than anything. I think I've proven it.
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