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how to prevent involuntary hospitalizations?

Postby newuser » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:30 pm

How would one prevent getting hospitalized???

Case 1.
Person x takes you to an ER and lies that you are suicidal. You are put in mental health in hospital.

Case 2.
Person x calls the cops on you which take you to a health facility. You get angry and get hospitalized.

Case 3.
Person x calls 911 and take you away.

How to prevent these actions from occurring if person x is angry, delusional, revengeful and is out to hurt you???
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Re: how to prevent involuntary hospitalizations?

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:55 am

newuser wrote:How would one prevent getting hospitalized???

Case 1.
Person x takes you to an ER and lies that you are suicidal. You are put in mental health in hospital.
Case 2.
Person x calls the cops on you which take you to a health facility. You get angry and get hospitalized.
Case 3.
Person x calls 911 and take you away.
How to prevent these actions from occurring if person x is angry, delusional, revengeful and is out to hurt you???


Prevention, who ever did this to you knows your anger buttons and presses them. try not to react.

Cops like adrenaline... exitement , the fastest way to make cops go away is to be quiet, boring, monotone ect...

Memorise the phone numbers for the psychiatric human rights groups.

Also in my days of psych drug or withdrawal induced anxiety attacks, I learned to goto a hospital WITHOUT a psych ward for treatment. Call around and ask.
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Re: how to prevent involuntary hospitalizations?

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:58 am

newuser wrote:How would one prevent getting hospitalized???

Case 1.
Person x takes you to an ER and lies


Münchausen syndrome by proxy (MSbP or MBP) is a term that is used to describe a behavior pattern in which a caregiver deliberately exaggerates, fabricates... LIES, and/or induces physical, psychological, behavioral, and/or mental health problems in those who are in their care.
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Fabricated ... ction.aspx
"Child" protection for victims of Münchausen syndrome by proxy
Münchausen syndrome by proxy is a child protection issue and cannot be treated by the NHS alone. Medical professionals who suspect (MSbP or MBP) is taking place should liaise with social services and the police, and must follow local child protection procedures.

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Re: how to prevent involuntary hospitalizations?

Postby newuser » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:25 pm

thanks for the advice. i will note the numbers for psychiatric human rights groups in the phone.

-- Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:32 pm --

i could not find any phone number for psychiatric human rights groups. Can you please help?

-- Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:33 pm --

i live in the USA - Maryland.
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Re: how to prevent involuntary hospitalizations?

Postby bright_star » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:26 pm

Copy_Cat wrote:
newuser wrote:How would one prevent getting hospitalized???

Case 1.
Person x takes you to an ER and lies


Münchausen syndrome by proxy (MSbP or MBP) is a term that is used to describe a behavior pattern in which a caregiver deliberately exaggerates, fabricates... LIES, and/or induces physical, psychological, behavioral, and/or mental health problems in those who are in their care.
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Fabricated ... ction.aspx
"Child" protection for victims of Münchausen syndrome by proxy
Münchausen syndrome by proxy is a child protection issue and cannot be treated by the NHS alone. Medical professionals who suspect (MSbP or MBP) is taking place should liaise with social services and the police, and must follow local child protection procedures.

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Sometimes I've wondered if this happened to me in my childhood. I think it was in their mind, justified to harass me and exaggerate my behavior for multiple baker acts. For instance, I was sitting on the roof and my mom assumed I was going to jump.. Prior to the diagnosis this had been normal. My mom was actig irrational too. My therapist keeps exaggerating my treatment, saying I've had an ungodly amount of hospitalizations, for schizophrenia, when it was only 3 times I've actually been inpatient in my whole life. 15 and 17 was it.

I think a lot of parents can overreact to their child's behavior but sometims it felt outright purposeful...and that has confused me a lot. For instance, my dad mentally abused me by screaming at the top of his lungs until I could not think. About my ex boyfriend, he screamed that I was so stupid, and he was tired of my stupid behavior making stupid decisions and my stupid boyfriend and their stupid poverty. I can see where he was coming from, my ex was kind of mooching off me in some ways but he also drove me to college and was supportive. I kind of miss him, and my dad and brother teamed up to convince me it was an unhealthy relationship.

My dad also did this screaming thing when I was ever thnking of going off the meds. So I have a traumatic fear of going off them.

I also realized today that my therapist could baker act me. I had thought it was illegal in West Virginia to hospitalize someone for no reason other than concern.
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Re: how to prevent involuntary hospitalizations?

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:20 am

newuser wrote:i could not find any phone number for psychiatric human rights groups.




1-877-MAD PRIDE Members of MindFreedom International use mutual support to protect one another from unwanted coerced psychiatric procedures. Current MindFreedom members may register for the MindFreedom Shield for free. Then if a member with a Shield is threatened with coerced psychiatry, that member can instantly activate a public alert system. http://www.mindfreedom.org/shield

Remember its eight seven seven MAD PRIDE .

This number was passed to me by a survivor along with the knowlege there even was such a thing as survivors of psychiatry, human rights ect. Im glad I remebered the number cause I got someone on the phone who understood me when I was upset over the locked doors and coercive tactics to drug me, unlike some on the phone to family in a panic and the family thinking they are "safe" and getting "help" ...
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Re: how to prevent involuntary hospitalizations?

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:01 am

schizochic wrote:Sometimes I've wondered if this happened to me in my childhood.

Münchausen syndrome by proxy (MSbP or MBP) ? Munchausen syndrome occurs because of psychological problems in the adult, and is generally an attention-seeking behavior

link #2 http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency ... 001555.htm

or just over protective parenting ? I don't think I copy catted enough to explain it.

Did you click the link ?
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Re: how to prevent involuntary hospitalizations?

Postby newuser » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:49 pm

interesting, thx to the link for the support group.
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Re: how to prevent involuntary hospitalizations?

Postby Supersaneman » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:58 pm

newuser wrote:How would one prevent getting hospitalized???

Case 1.
Person x takes you to an ER and lies that you are suicidal. You are put in mental health in hospital.

Case 2.
Person x calls the cops on you which take you to a health facility. You get angry and get hospitalized.

Case 3.
Person x calls 911 and take you away.

How to prevent these actions from occurring if person x is angry, delusional, revengeful and is out to hurt you???

1. Don't let them take you to the ER unless you are sick. If you have mental problems, maybe you should be in the ER, suicidal or not.

2: Tell the cops X needs psychiatric help and isn't telling the truth. Be specific. Maybe the'll admit to making stuff up and the police let you go. And don't get angry when in the psych hospital.

3. Run away when you see the cops coming.

I wouldn't recommend avoiding it though as it's easy to mess it up and just make yourself look more sick.
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Re: how to prevent involuntary hospitalizations?

Postby GreenerGrass » Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:37 pm

I had this happen to me a few years back while i was going thruogh and extremely messy civil suit. One of my 'friends' called the cops on me saying i had a gun and was suicidal!

The police showed up.. And i exercised my rights under the constitution (made them stand on the back porch, instead of inviting them into my home)

Anyways, long story short, i explained in detal the happenings in my life at that time to the officers, in a calm cool manner and asked pin pointed questions, which required them to answer...

Such as, why would i kill myself and give the plaintiff everything me and my family spent our lives building, esp when he was at fault?

How is involuntarily locking me up in the nut house for 72hrs going to help me? I have no health insurance, and cant afford the associated medical bills. Plus that trip goes into my permanent health record and will haunt me for the rest of my life.

The officers agreed my situation was extradinary, and agreed with my logic.

Needless to say, what began as a forceful hospitalization ended with me staying home.

Calm cool, collected. To the point. Joke a little bit, keep it real. And dont get all bent out of shape. Remember they have been told your a major mess, prove them wrong
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