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Time to get tough on mental illness ? Batman shooter

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:43 am

"As yet, there are no details about the "Batman shooter's James Holmes mental health record", but the situation is a good opportunity to review some federal laws designed to prevent such tragedies, but which are not working because of practical obstacles... "

" The study showed that three months ago, thirty 30 states were not making any non-criminal mental health records available to the federal database. "

The blame game is starting already, see: http://www.policymic.com/articles/11560 ... ere-is-why

The question is: Was The Batman Shooter James Holmes already taking psychiatric drugs and having one of those little "call your doctor if" reactions ??

Psychiatric drugs known to have some horrifying "side effects" that include mania, psychosis, hallucinations, violence and even suicide.

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Re: Time to get tough on mental illness ? Batman shooter

Postby Copy_Cat » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:07 am

Does anyone else think a psych med reaction might be a good guess ?
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Re: Time to get tough on mental illness ? Batman shooter

Postby alasyon » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:00 am

I think that theory is highly unlikely. It was carefully premeditated over the course of weeks. It all seemed very organized. Narcissistic personality structure with marked sociopathic elements would be the most likely scenario. I am guessing that evidence of an "ego injury" in the weeks leading up to the shooting will emerge. I wouldn't be surprised if they try some sort of psychiatric defence, but I think it is unlikely to satisfy the "unsoundness of mind" criteria due to the premeditated nature of the shooting. Of course, the anti-psychiatry league would love to blame SSRIs, but it looks unlikely in this case. Finally, we should remember that mass killings existed for thousands of years before Prozac.
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Re: Time to get tough on mental illness ? Batman shooter

Postby lljames » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:57 am

This particular URL is a source to the NIH government web site on an entire review of many of the significant case studies from the SSRI stories web site and many other trials. Its important to know that the summary explains that there isn't satisfactory conclusive evidence based on the many reasons listed and further studies are underway to figure out if mania is as prevalent due to the prescriptions or the illness itself. In other words, its too soon to tell. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2655139/
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Re: Time to get tough on mental illness ? Batman shooter

Postby Copy_Cat » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:57 pm

We only need to ask one simple question : What psychiatric drug was he taking or withdrawing from? Sometimes simple questions are the hardest to ask.

Those questions would be hard for the media to ask, because after reporting the event, taking station breaks for advertisements for antidepressants and other brain pills might give big media editors and producers indigestion , since they kind of depend on Big Pharma sponsorship.

Ask the question Mr T.V reporter: What psychiatric drugs was he taking ?
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Re: Time to get tough on mental illness ? Batman shooter

Postby KINDNESSTHERAPY » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:32 pm

Are we saying that -All- mass murders are on anti psychotic drugs or have mental illness etc., what about the mass murder in Norway about a year ago???
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Re: Time to get tough on mental illness ? Batman shooter

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:02 pm

KINDNESSTHERAPY wrote:Are we saying that -All- mass murders are on anti psychotic drugs or have mental illness etc., what about the mass murder in Norway about a year ago???


"In a recent letter to Norwegian tabloid Verdans Gang, Anders Behring Breivik said being sent to a psychiatric ward would be a "fate worse than death".

"To send a political activist to an asylum is more sadistic and more evil than killing him!" he wrote."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17663958
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Re: Time to get tough on mental illness ? Batman shooter

Postby bramble26 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:03 pm

This entire situation is sad. Firstly I feel for the victims and their families. But, I also feel for James Holmes and his family as well. As the news first broke I was thinking, who could commit such an atrocity, but as details about the suspect started to emerge, I thought something wasn't adding up. He seemed to have a lot of things going good for him in the academics department, then earlier this year, he quit his PhD program. He has no social media outlets. Seems to have no friends. In court, he looked to be in an alternate reality. Not just the unspeakable crimes he committed, but his demeanor that speaks mental illness. I look forward to seeing next weeks proceedings, and if he has the same bewildered look on his face as his charges are read.
The only read expressions I caught were the frowning look he gave when the judge talked about granting media coverage. Other then that he was completely dazed. I am sure he is medicated as well.
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Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:45 pm

Mabey its time to get "easy" on mental illness and treat psychiatric patients with the same respect as other patients in the hospital ? When I was having those horrible withdrawals after being given/taking the wrong medication I realy wanted/needed help. I endured my symptoms as long as I could knowing that if I went to the hospital, intake is the same as being arrested. Getting Strip searched, cutting me off from friends/family by taking my phone !!! , that degrading suicide prevetion crap everyone is subjected to... locked doors, cameras on you all the time, the threat of 4 point restraints if you react to your mistreatment, coerced/forced drugging with "mouth checks", and never knowing when you can actualy leave.


Now these retards are on T.V talking about James Holmes and asking why people don't get "help" ?
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Re: Time to get tough on mental illness ? Batman shooter

Postby thebetterhalf » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:28 am

who's to say he wasnt just some normal guy who had a mental break, and needed temporay meds, normal people get mental illness too, theres just get to go away over time. Always the mental people, you dont the hear how the people who took down the twin towers were mentally ill. Sane people with the wrong resons for killing.
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