Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

I have been on and off antipsychotics deliberately for several years and have reached two conclusions.
1. The drugs do not work.
2. The drugs are injurious to human health (they are poisonous).
The mental health industry promotes the idea that a chemical imbalance in the brain causes mental illness. They reckon that their expensive drugs can rectify this supposed chemical imbalance. This is clearly nonsense because anti psychotics actually cause chemical imbalances in the brain. The terrible side effects these drugs cause suggest that. If these drugs placed the brain chemicals in a normal state the body would be as nature intended and there would be no side effects. In my case I have conclusive proof because within four weeks of being placed on Risperdal my blood test showed that I had high prolactin levels. Research has shown that 85% of people on Risperdal develop high prolactin levels within eight weeks of being placed on the drug. Of more interest is the effect these drugs have on dopamine levels because this is the chemical that they tell you is responsible for mental illness. The antipsychotics reduce the levels of this chemical and this is supposed to keep you sane. The problem is that all the antipsychotics that I have been on, and I have been on many, cause me to be dopamine deficient. I know this because when I am on these drugs, amongst other things, I gain weight, become weak and want to sleep the whole time. These are all signs of a dopamine deficiency. So antipsychotics cause your dopamine levels to become imbalanced and this is the chemical that supposedly causes mental illness. The point is that my thoughts and beliefs are the same regardless of whether I am taking the drugs or not. If I am not on the drugs I do not have a chemical imbalance in the brain because I am not mentally ill, and if I am on the drugs I do have chemical imbalances in my brain. Either way my thoughts are the same which proves that a chemical imbalance in the brain does not cause mental illness. The only way that these drugs have altered my thinking is to make me fearful of the system, because these drugs cause pain and suffering.
The second conclusion leads on from the first. If the brain is producing abnormal levels of prolactin it proves that the hypothalamus is malfunctioning. i.e. your brain is being damaged. My experience is that antipsychotics make you feel very unwell as soon as they get into your system. At best you feel like a zombie most of the time, which is why they are known as the chemical cosh. However they can cause more serious damage. After being injected with Risperdal for a year without my consent I was showing signs of quite serious brain damage with most of the functions controlled by the hypothalamus beginning to break down. I think my liver was also suffering. My GP told me that Risperdal is known to cause liver damage. Luckily I found a way to rid my body of this poison. My experience is that the Doctors try to cover up the harm these drugs cause. When my blood test showed that I had high prolactin levels a Doctor at the time told me that the Risperdal was causing the high prolactin levels which is obvious. However sometime later when I had another blood test which showed that I still had high prolactin levels (unsurprising because I was still on Risperdal) another Doctor tried to fob me off saying it was due to stress or drugs (recreational). The manufactures also have a history of covering up the damage these drugs do. The manufacturer of one of the anti psychotics that has caused tens of thousands of cases of diabetes had conducted trials that showed that this would happen but they suppressed their findings. The reason they cover up the harm these drugs cause is because of the billions these drugs are worth. Over all these drugs are obviously poisonous to humans because they have killed thousands and caused life threatening diseases in thousands of others. Even children are not spared. Some of the unfortunate ones are forced to take these drugs and some have died because of this. Given my experiences on these drugs I class making people take these drugs as torture and punishment.
Having been in the system for 7-8 years now I am doubtful that there is such a thing as mental illness. The mental health industry is more than likely duping people to make billions of dollars. They have invented an incurable disease for which there is, conveniently, no scientific test. Nothing can be proved. I have found that it is very easy to get into the system. If you say the right things you can be diagnosed within ten minutes with a serious brain disease by someone who knows nothing, about you. Once you’re in the system the psychiatrists start to make things up, they change the facts to fit the theory.
They say that schizophrenia is more prevalent in the lower socio economic groups. This may be because these people are more easily targeted into the system. They have less of a voice. Maybe they get into a bit a trouble and are then selected for the mental health system. Otherwise I have encountered three types of people in the mental health system.
There are people who don’t want to work and know that they can get better benefits if they are ill. i.e. malingerers. Mental illness is perfect for them. If you know what to say you can be diagnosed within ten minutes by someone who knows nothing, about you with a life long illness. It’s just a question of saying that you hear voices or that people are coming after you and you’ve got the diagnosis. Unfortunately they are the ones being conned because once in the system it is very difficult to get out of and potentially you are going to be forced to take drugs that at the very least will make you feel lousy and will potentially kill you.
There are then the people who have genuine problems coping with life. Well, the mental health industry have that one covered because they have medicalised every day problems. They tell you that they have a drug that can solve your problems. Depression is the obvious one. I have been on anti depressants and can tell you that they do not make you feel any better. However there are plenty of people who may be desperate and will take the advice of a so called professional not realizing they are just going to be used to perpetuate an evil system. Most people’s problems come down to a lack of money. Giving them money would cure them; prescribing them harmful drugs that do not work will not help them. It would be better to use the tens of billions of dollars that the mental health industry makes from dangerous drugs that don’t work to provide financial support for people who need it. However, it’s the big pharmaceutical companies that are getting the billions and the only people who benefit are the criminals that run these companies. And where does that money come from, it comes from the tax payer. If it was just theft that would be bad enough, but people die on these drugs.
Finally there are the people who are actually being persecuted, which is what I have experienced. The mental health system is a perfect cover for the abusers. To cut a long story short I have been subjected to a process of threats and intimidation. Without going in to any detail they prevent me from working. The organizations behind this wanted me in the mental health system because they knew that it would make my life immeasurably worse, being forced to take a poison and having pretty much all my human rights violated (I was once sectioned because I refused to answer questions about my sex life). When the persecution began the last thing on my mind was to talk to a Doctor, I knew they couldn’t help. However, after a while, to please someone close to me, I told a psychiatrist what was going on, which was a big mistake. I was diagnosed within ten minutes as a paranoid schizophrenic by someone who is at best a clueless ignorant, and that was me in a system. The persecutors took my career away from me which was very important to me, (within eight years of starting my career I was earning 140,000 USD a year, which put me in the top three percent of earners in the country), but if anything being forced to take anti psychotics has been worse. That took away my health and constitutes torture. I said that I was diagnosed by at best a clueless ignorant. At worse they are evil and complicit with the organizations that have targeted me. I can’t trust a group of people that force a poison on people, including children, that causes serious illness and death. Also if you get targeted and go to the police they will tell you to go to a doctor. When you go to the doctor they will instantly tell you that you are mentally ill. So you can get no help. They are either all working together to target people that they deem to be undesirable or the police and doctors don’t believe that this sort of thing goes on, but I can tell you that it does. Either way it is perfect for the persecutors, they can destroy someone’s life and the police and doctors cannot
In conclusion I have been shocked by the inhumanity exhibited by the mental health industry. Perhaps though the director of mental health where I am is giving us a clue as to what these psychopaths really think of us. His car’s private number plate begins T4.
If you don’t know Google Nazi T4.

Seroquel worked for me and I had noticed a large improvement within the first week of taking it, and moreso since. It's not a miracle drug but it has had a incredible impact on my life. I've stopped self harming, and I no longer drink till I blackout just to escape my own mind. It may be poison, but there are worse things. In my mind it is the lesser of two evils. It makes me feel tired and fatigued all the time, but these side effects are preferable to slicing off a nipple, or ingesting a large bottle of aspirin while "completely coherent of mind" ( so I felt at the time).
These drugs won't work on everyone, but that does not mean it will not work on anyone.There are varying types of metabolisms, sensitivities, and other factors that determine how effective, or not, a medicine can be. I feel that your view that "since these drugs do not work on you, then they won't work on anyone" is an erroneous opinion based on limited information. It might even be dangerous if it effects the decision of certain individuals. So this is my counter to your claim. Seroquel DOES work for me.

I have also taken seroquel, and it makes me incredibly sick!. It happens once and again,that often the remedy is worst than the problem. I begin to have aritmia, and shake all day long. I feel distant and very heavy. have a hard time thinking and carrying things out. Seroquel does not work for me.

but i am beginning to think that when you have various disorders, it can be like an old standart car...you put in on first geer and then you change your mind and put on the brakes.
this is what goes on with me until now with anti deppressants at first, and now seroquel.

what edgnbd says about the system, a friend of mine totally agrees with it. I have the feeling, that some health systems take over not only the health of the people but also over their lives, specially people who are in very vulnerable situations.

the more i learn the more i realize that we must never lose reach of our own health, that even though we are the most ìgnorant`in the field, no one else knows like we do, what really happens within our body. Doctors read...side effects, but you need to feel them in your own body to realize if the price is worth it.

I was recenly reading about when, how, and why anti-depressants came out.They were NEVER meant to be taken on a long term basis;6weeks max.They were'nt even nessasary,they just helped patients stablize quicker thats it.It was well know that these all had very bad side effects and yes the conpanies cover up alot of info.Also the gov has its hand in there also,FDA there all a bunch of crooks.I bet theres not many people in congress on anti-depressants if any.Ive recenly exparenced some bad side effects from zoloft;they've had me on it for 14 years a far cry from 6 weeks!I dont see a pdoctor so I'm going to talk to my GP about this,he presribes my meds.I liked what you had to say about the dopamine levels;my next blood test I'm going to have mine checked.NO ONE has ever proven bipola is a chemical imbalance.I was less depressed and way more able to function before I was put on meds.I'm very sorry to hear about you being forsed out of work thats bullsh.t!I got injured(neck)so its been 7years of hell.I'm not even sure I could handle it anymore,at least not on drugs;I got no energy,no desire,no joy in my life.Dont want to met new people,dont want people to know me.Dont want people to know how much I've failed.Dont want to break down and cry at work;thats happened not fun for a man to cry at work.I've only been manic a couple of times and I believe every time was due to lack of sleep.I used to love to workout,now I keep trying but the depression is so ad most days I just want to sleep.Loise you made some valid points thanks for posting.

sadness2012 wrote:I was recenly reading about when, how, and why anti-depressants came out.They were NEVER meant to be taken on a long term basis;6weeks max.They were'nt even nessasary,they just helped patients stablize quicker thats it.It was well know that these all had very bad side effects and yes the conpanies cover up alot of info.Also the gov has its hand in there also,FDA there all a bunch of crooks.I bet theres not many people in congress on anti-depressants if any.Ive recenly exparenced some bad side effects from zoloft;they've had me on it for 14 years a far cry from 6 weeks!I dont see a pdoctor so I'm going to talk to my GP about this,he presribes my meds.I liked what you had to say about the dopamine levels;my next blood test I'm going to have mine checked.NO ONE has ever proven bipola is a chemical imbalance.I was less depressed and way more able to function before I was put on meds.I'm very sorry to hear about you being forsed out of work thats bullsh.t!I got injured(neck)so its been 7years of hell.I'm not even sure I could handle it anymore,at least not on drugs;I got no energy,no desire,no joy in my life.Dont want to met new people,dont want people to know me.Dont want people to know how much I've failed.Dont want to break down and cry at work;thats happened not fun for a man to cry at work.I've only been manic a couple of times and I believe every time was due to lack of sleep.I used to love to workout,now I keep trying but the depression is so ad most days I just want to sleep.Loise you made some valid points thanks for posting.

You are so right about what you say against the antidepressants. there have been many cases when women are given this medicine after having a child, and this ends up in a tragedy, distroying the life of the woman and of the children....these antidepressants have sometimes the opposite effect, my psych explained me that the des inhibit....so what you normally would stop at mind level, find yourself doing it....it is a nightmare, and like you say there are big economic interest behind, and also the medicine moves very very slow, standart book take a decennia before they accept a new procedure and meanwhile so many peoples life is being destroyed.
i dare to think that never before, have doctors know so little as now. because we have moved so rapidly in name of progress that we are just beginning to see the secondary effects of all these new things, like ingredients in clothes, food, electric apparatuur, who is toxic to the human being, contamination of air and water.
when i began to lose my concentration and memory i thought it was due to my age, the menopause, now i see and hear people 20 years younger than me, going through similar symptoms.

economic growth has replaced responsability and ethics, companies will produce and sell things that are killing and destroying the human race....which eventually will come back to them, we are within this race,and people need to dare, to say, this might be the system but i will not obey anymore.

Antipsychotics didn't work for me either. However, I do believe they may be effective for some people.

Here's the problem: I asked my doctor how they know that increased levels in dopamine lead to psychosis. She said they don't know. I asked what chemical pathway leads to the increase in dopamine levels and she said they actually do not know either. All they know is that when they give people medication that blocks dopamine, the length of the psychosis is significantly reduced -- ie. from a potential length of 6 months down to 1 month. (The body does recover from psychosis on its own but it takes a long time.)

So, basically, I think there are different pathways that lead to pyschosis and they don't understand them yet. I believe my psychosis was stress-induced. For somebody else, it might be induced by dopamine levels that are too high. For person three, it might be completely different too. This is the case for cancers, heart attacks etc. as well.

THAT's why I believe the medication works for some and not others.

For me it was completely useless and I believe it only damaged me. The recommended dose for somebody with my symptoms was 4mg Risperidone. I was a complete zombie at that dose. I couldn't stay awake for a moment and slept like 14hrs. My brain felt totally foggy. At 3mg I was still foggy, felt completely stupid, but was not falling asleep sitting upright. I still couldn't have a proper conversation and I was so anxious I couldn't sit still. I was constantly pacing back and forth. At 2mg, I was somewhat normal. No more anxiousness but still unmotivated and still feeling not right. I am now at a dose of 1mg and ready to get off within a month. I can't wait.

Psychosis was damaging enough to deal with, but layer feeling stupid, foggy, anxious, and unmotivated on top of that and it's not a pretty picture. I feel the meds were completely unnecessary for me and fear that their effects are long-term. I don't ever think for me it was dopamine causing the problem. It was just stress. Moreover, I am fearful of a system that imposes this medication on you even if it is not working. Why should I be forced to take meds that don't actually work for me? They wouldn't release me until they thought I was 'stable'. That meant me having to lie to them so I could get out of there.

I do believe that the medical field is far too controlled by the pharmaceutical industry. They are allowed to selectively publish findings that show medicines work and that is completely wrong. Pharmaceuticals are probably the greatest and worst thing that happened to us in the 20th century. They cured polio, pain, offered heart patients longer lives, etc... but they are not the only answer. Now the pharmaceutical industry completely controls the medical field.

Ugh. So many opinions, so little space. I hope this helped someone. I never post on forums if I have to become a member first, but I felt too strongly about this.

I started again on Xeroquel, because the pressure, the stress were to high and i could barely control my mind. I have to say that a lower dosis, half a 25mgr. pill every night has allowed me to sleep and rest in the middle of a difficult time.
My only complain is that i am quite slow starting the day, and get pretty shaky if people raise their voices, so early and night are kind of vulnerable times, but for the rest, it has been like a rescue boat these weeks.
It works as a brake, it simply stops my mind from repeating itself when i can not.

When you guys say that you must drink a pill, that is mandatory, i find it so strange.
where i am from and where i live, that does not exist. If you want to get well, you look for it.

good luck!

Ferra wrote:Psychosis was damaging enough to deal with, but layer feeling stupid, foggy, anxious, and unmotivated on top of that and it's not a pretty picture. I feel the meds were completely unnecessary for me and fear that their effects are long-term. I don't ever think for me it was dopamine causing the problem. It was just stress. Moreover, I am fearful of a system that imposes this medication on you even if it is not working.

Brief reactive psychosis is a sudden, short-term display of psychotic behavior, such as hallucinations or delusions, that occurs with a stressful event. Causes, incidence, and risk factors
Brief reactive psychosis is triggered by extreme stress (such as a traumatic accident or loss of a loved one), and is followed by a return to the previous level of function and Substance-induced psychosis is a form of substance-related disorder where psychosis can be attributed to substance use. Like alcohol !!

MEGA! Stress >>>> drinking >>>> psychosis >>>> I went to the hospital >>>> coerced antipsychotics !!

How does meds that cause in your words a layer feeling stupid, foggy, anxious, and unmotivated on top of that help ? They don't .

I needed to be clear and motivated to solve the problems creating the stress . They were going to send me out medicated into a useless zombie and call that "better". I had to resist under threat of injections, MORE STRESS.

Ferra wrote:
I asked my doctor how they know that increased levels in dopamine lead to psychosis

I didn't realise that it was increased dopamine levels that were responsible for mental illness. I didn't think that they would prescribe medications that increase dopamine activity such as Ritalin and Wellbutrin amongst others if that were the case.

edgnbd wrote:

Ferra wrote:
I asked my doctor how they know that increased levels in dopamine lead to psychosis

I didn't realise that it was increased dopamine levels that were responsible for mental illness. I didn't think that they would prescribe medications that increase dopamine activity such as Ritalin and Wellbutrin amongst others if that were the case.

Hello! Hope to clear any confusion for you. There are different kinds of mental illnesses. I experienced a brief psychosis and the medication I was given (Risperidone) blocks both dopamine and serotonin.

-- Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:31 pm --

Copy_Cat wrote:

Ferra wrote:Psychosis was damaging enough to deal with, but layer feeling stupid, foggy, anxious, and unmotivated on top of that and it's not a pretty picture. I feel the meds were completely unnecessary for me and fear that their effects are long-term. I don't ever think for me it was dopamine causing the problem. It was just stress. Moreover, I am fearful of a system that imposes this medication on you even if it is not working.

Brief reactive psychosis is a sudden, short-term display of psychotic behavior, such as hallucinations or delusions, that occurs with a stressful event. Causes, incidence, and risk factors
Brief reactive psychosis is triggered by extreme stress (such as a traumatic accident or loss of a loved one), and is followed by a return to the previous level of function and Substance-induced psychosis is a form of substance-related disorder where psychosis can be attributed to substance use. Like alcohol !!

MEGA! Stress >>>> drinking >>>> psychosis >>>> I went to the hospital >>>> coerced antipsychotics !!

How does meds that cause in your words a layer feeling stupid, foggy, anxious, and unmotivated on top of that help ? They don't .

I needed to be clear and motivated to solve the problems creating the stress . They were going to send me out medicated into a useless zombie and call that "better". I had to resist under threat of injections, MORE STRESS.

I hear ya. It's nonsense.