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Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

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Re: Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

Postby slither » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:19 am

I've tried a handful of antidepressants...Prozac, effexor, celexa, zoloft and so on, but they have never worked. I always felt that it was something in my life I was unable to cope with, and I was right.

Anti psychotics do absolutely nothing to treat my symptoms, and everything imaginable to make me worse. I first tried risperidone, which is an awful, awful drug that should be banned.

I developed shakes and tremors, insatiable appetite, swollen nipples, drooling, odd mouth movements, dreams that lasted all night and prevented restful sleep, not feeling right; foggy, and I became infertile until I stopped it (no ejaculate). This was all on 1mg.

Serequel: I was put on this in addition to risperidone to help me sleep. Looking back, I'm appalled that an anti psychotic drug would be used for such a purpose. It kept me foggy and too tired to function throughout the day. Didn't help me fall asleep any faster.

Geodon: Sedated me into a bedridden zombie 18 hours a day, where every task was a chore.


Mood stabilizers don't work for me either:

Lithium. I didn't even manage to get to the therapeutic dosage before I developed overwhelming thirst and a sense of inflammation throughout my body.

Depakote: I could actually handle the side effects of this one, but it did nothing for me. I developed moderate vertigo and my urine smelled like ammonia until I stopped it.

I won't ever be taking drugs like this again.
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Re: Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

Postby loise » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:07 pm

I have been told by my psiquiater that xeroquel is just to help sleep, although we agree that i have my periods of psicosis.... on vacation it went perfect, just a little dosis and everynight knocked out and in the morning rested and ready to go...there i was 3000 meters above the sea,
\now that i am back home, at sea level, the same dosis is knocking me down throughout the day.
what a dissappointment!!! i am going to try one fourth of the dosis...because it does help sleep.and after five weeks vacation my chronic pain in legs, foots etc almost dissappeard.
i read somewhere that half of our problems have to do with little sleep, and i can see it in myself!!!!
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Re: Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

Postby Martha877 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:58 pm

Hey Schizophrenics,
I have been having so much trouble getting my medication, but I've been taking perphenazine. I'm not sleeping 20 hours a day, I don't feel any side effects. But no one wants to prescribe this medication, because it is not new and shiny. I have been waiting months to see a new doctor and I'm still waiting...They only want to prescribe me 30 days of medication, but I have to wait months to see a doctor? My GP won't prescribe me my meds, even though I had no problem getting my other daily doses for other issues I'm having. My last psych doctor treated me like a lab rat. Every month he was trying to prescribe me something else. He thought it was perfectly fine that I was sleeping at least 16 hours a day too. When I was taking the Seroquel, I was still experiencing hallucinations and having strange thoughts. As soon as I stopped taking all their fancy new pills and switched to perphenazine, all the psychosis stopped too, not just the nasty side effects. I do not recommend taking anything but perphenazine. I'm definitely not one to want to feel drugged up all day, if this sounds like you, I recommend this drug. I think if you are experiencing psychosis, you should be given anti-psychotics, not bipolar medication, not anti-depressants, and not whatever else they want to shove down your throat. I have been dealing with these so-called doctors for over 10 years. The illness and the drugs have destroyed much of my adult life. If I had only been given an anti-psycotic, I may have graduated college and have a good job right now. Instead, I sit on my couch all day, trying to find ways to help people like me and if that means I would have to become part of this #####& to do it.
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Re: Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

Postby loise » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:06 pm

Hi Guys,
i have been out of contact for some months. I am in beter shape. not only mentally, it seems that is true that when you sleep enough you start losing weight. people did not believe when i said i did not eat much...because of my overweight...now i have been with this anti psychotic since the summer, and i am doing much much better, my memory, my capacitie to organize, to coordinate...although in small amounts....but i see the improvement. in the pharmacy i was given quietapine...supposedly equal to xeroquel, but i liked it better..it is milder and i am know taking half of 25gr....enough to stop the computer in my head some hours and have a good sleep. the relation with my kids is also a lot better.

i know that i do no want to be medicated in the long run, but i have to see how much can i regulate my time by myself without medication....but right now, i am thankful something is working for me.
good luck to you all....it is true that there is alot of garbage out there, but sometimes i dare to think that part of the problem is the dosis...you have to make it work for you...i think.
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Re: Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

Postby edgnbd » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:27 am

I have been reading a psychiatric text book that argues that the chemical imbalance theory of mental illness is mistaken. The theory states that mental illness is caused by a chemical imbalance that antipsychotics happen to reverse. What is very concerning is that, given how dangerous the drugs are and the reliance placed upon them, the research Is contradictory in nature. For example, one study found that the dopamine blocking properties of antipsychotics were more strongly linked to Parkinson's-like neurological effects than therapeutic efficacy. Another study failed to find a correlation between Dopamine blockade and clinical response and a further problem for the chemical imbalance theory is that some drugs that increase dopamine activity do not produce psychosis. In fact there is evidence that the only dopamine abnormalities in people with schizophrenia are caused by antipsychotic treatment.

For mental disturbance to be classed as an illness it needs to be treatable with medication, in this case antipsychotics. The theory has been hugely beneficial to the psychiatric industry in terms of the multi billion dollar market for antipsychotics that it has created, which is good for the pharmaceutical companies and psychiatrists involved. What tends to be forgotten though are the countless innocent victims who are wrongly diagnosed and forced to endure the terrible side effects these drugs cause, which in a large number of cases has resulted in injury and death.
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Re: Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

Postby Tyler » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:14 am

I don't know why we bumped a two year old thread, but alright, I'll play along.

I've been on two anti-psychotics I believe. I do remember all the medication I've taken over the two plus years of my treatment, but I don't know what they all were labeled as. But what I do know is that the two that I've known I was taking, Ripserdal and, currently, Geodone, that they both worked for me. Sure, the Risperdal had some unwanted side effects, such as the extreme sedation and extreme weight gain, but it worked. I kept me from wanting to kill people. The Geodone, other than a little sedation and a lot of sweating, works just fine. I don't hallucinate almost at all anymore, unless I'm in a psychotic episode. I don't get depressed anymore, unless something severe triggers it. Sure the medicine isn't perfect, but to say that it doesn't work at all is a complete fallacy. Just because it didn't work for you or someone you know doesn't mean it doesn't work for everyone.
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Re: Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

Postby Copy_Cat » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:37 am

edgnbd wrote:I have been reading a psychiatric text book that argues that the chemical imbalance theory of mental illness is mistaken. The theory states that mental illness is caused by a chemical imbalance that antipsychotics happen to reverse.


dopamine dopamine dopamine

But why is Xanax or strong opiate often also effective when "psychotic" ?
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Re: Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

Postby loise » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:13 pm

hi guys,
I wrote two times positively over anti psychotics, more than a year and a half ago.
now I can tell the other side of the story. after a year of using a minimal dosis,
we were bringing it down, and then one day I get this horrible unbearable pain
in my lower back, coxis....I had contraction during two days, they had to give me diazepam and akineton a medicine for patients with Parkinson.
the pain went down, it has been one year, and I can not sit longer than 20 minutes in any hard surface because the cramps from my coxis to my back and pelvis are unbearable.
I have also had periods of what is called parkinsonism, a finger started moving, then a hand, then my whole arm...I had to start taking oxazepam to bring down this symptoms.
this happened more than six months after I stopped quietapine, minimal dosis.

I do not know if the damage will remain or if it is a temporary thing,
but it is not a small secondary effect...I am amazed how tremendously irresponsible
are the people that prescribe these medicines and the whole industry.

oh by the way, I have now diabetes, another secondary effect.
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Re: Antipsychotics Are Poisonous And Don't Work

Postby Amber35 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:39 pm

edgnbd wrote:
Ferra wrote:
I asked my doctor how they know that increased levels in dopamine lead to psychosis


I didn't realise that it was increased dopamine levels that were responsible for mental illness. I didn't think that they would prescribe medications that increase dopamine activity such as Ritalin and Wellbutrin amongst others if that were the case.



I swear that high doses of adderall increased the dopamine in my brain that lead me to the voices that I hear today.
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Copy_Cat wrote:
edgnbd wrote:I have been reading a psychiatric text book that argues that the chemical imbalance theory of mental illness is mistaken. The theory states that mental illness is caused by a chemical imbalance that antipsychotics happen to reverse.


dopamine dopamine dopamine

But why is Xanax or strong opiate often also effective when "psychotic" ?


Copycat, I am on Xanax now, but I did take clonipine...but it made me too sleepy during the day so we switched to xanax ..what's the difference? Because I am more awake during the daytime on Xanax than I was on Clonapine. Clonapine knocked me out. But I think I am going to go back to Clonepine because Xanax is starting to not work so good. What do you think? Although...I know I am talking too much, sorry, I am only on the 0.5 mg Xanax. Lots of love.
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