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The Bipolar Child

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu May 03, 2012 10:11 am

A book by Demitri Papolos for turning children into life-long chronic mental patients and consumers of dangerous psychiatric poisons called "medicine" before they even get a chance at life.

There is a new movie out called Generation Rx.

Quick Overview of the movie:
For decades, scores of doctors, government officials, journalists, and others have extolled the benefits of psychiatric medicines for children. GENERATION RX presents “the rest of the story” and unveils how this era of unprecedented change in Western culture really occurred — and what price has been paid by our society.

I realy want to watch this movie http://GenerationRXFilm.com

'GENERATION RX' Documentary Trailer is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7900bL60Xbc

Has anyone seen the whole movie ? I heard it was on netflix and is pretty good.
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Re: The Bipolar Child

Postby sunset_birth » Sat May 05, 2012 1:55 pm

Not yet. I will put it on the todo list.
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Re: The Bipolar Child

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon May 21, 2012 2:30 am

"A world-renowned Harvard child psychiatrist whose work has helped fuel an explosion in the use of powerful antipsychotic medicines in children earned at least $1.6 million in consulting fees from drug makers from 2000 to 2007 but for years did not report much of this income to university officials, according to information given Congressional investigators."

This was in the NEW YORK TIMES

here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/us/08 ... wanted=all
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Re: The Bipolar Child

Postby HaxX » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:04 pm

i went through this book once. all i could do was shake my head.
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Re: The Bipolar Child

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:39 am

HaxX wrote:i went through this book once. all i could do was shake my head.


"The Bipolar Child - Demitri Papolos, M.D. and Janice Papolos" ...

Check out:

How Big Pharma and the Psychiatric Establishment Drugged Up Our Kids

Here is a few quoptes from it:

“Children are known to be compliant patients and that makes them a highly desirable market for drugs,” says former Pharma rep Gwen Olsen, author of Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher.6 “Children are forced by school personnel to take their drugs, they are forced by their parents to take their drugs, and they are forced by their doctors to take their drugs. So, children are the ideal patient-type because they represent refilled prescription compliance and ‘longevity.’ In other words, they will be lifelong patients and repeat customers for Pharma.”


Just as it used to be said in obstetric circles, “Once a cesarean, always a cesarean,” it’s also true that “once a pediatric psychiatric patient, always a pediatric psychiatric patient.” Few, indeed, are kids who start out diagnosed and treated for ADHD, bipolar disorder, and other “psychopathologies” who end up on no drugs, psychologically fine, and ready to run for class president. Even if they outgrow their original diagnoses—a big “if” with a mental health history that follows them—the side effects from years of psychoactive drugs and their physical health on mental, social, and emotional development take their toll. Even children on allergy and asthma drugs, which are promoted for kids as young as age one, are now known to develop psychiatric side effects according to emerging research.7

Kids who start out with psychiatric diagnoses are not only lifers—they are expensive lifers usually shuttled into government programs that will pay for psychiatric drug “cocktails” that can approach $2,000 a month. What private insurer would pay $323 for an atypical antipsychotic like Zyprexa®, Geodon®, or Risperdal®, when a “typical” antipsychotic costs only about $40?8

Not all medical professionals agree with the slapdash cocktails. Panelists at the 2010 American Psychiatric Association (APA) meeting assailed Pharma for such “seat of the pants” drug combinations and called the industry nothing but a “marketing organization.”9 In a symposium about comparative drug effectiveness, a Canadian doctor castigated the FDA’s Jing Zhang, who had served as a panelist at the symposium, for his agency’s approval of drugs for “competitive reasons” rather than for patient health or effectiveness.10 Research presented at the 2010 APA meeting also questioned the psychiatric cocktails. When twenty-four patients on combinations of Seroquel, Zyprexa, and other antipsychotics were reduced to only one drug, there was no worsening of symptoms or increased hospitalizations (except in one case), and patients’ waist circumferences and triglycerides improved (a large waist circumference and high levels of triglycerides [fat] in the blood heighten one’s risk of developing diabetes and cardiovascular diseases).11 The drug cocktails were not working and were making patients worse by creating new medical problems.

But pediatric psychopharmacology is a billion-dollar business that sustains Pharma, Pharma investors on Wall Street, doctors, researchers, medical centers, clinical research organizations, medical journals, Pharma’s PR and ghostwriting firms, pharmacy benefits managers, and the FDA itself—which judges its value on how many drugs it approves. The only losers are kids given a probable life sentence of expensive and dangerous drugs, the families of these children, and the taxpayers and insured persons who pay for the drugs. "

This is from: http://www.alternet.org/health/155459/h ... age=entire

This quote sticks out to me "The only losers are kids given a probable life sentence of expensive and dangerous drugs, the families of these children, and the taxpayers and insured persons who pay for the drugs. "

I don't have the writing skills to realy explain how the withdrawal reactions of psychiatric drugs mimic almost perfectly (but with more intensity) the conditions they claim they treat. Thats how kids become chronic mental patients.
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Re: The Bipolar Child

Postby HaxX » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:10 pm

"I don't have the writing skills to realy explain how the withdrawal reactions of psychiatric drugs mimic almost perfectly (but with more intensity) the conditions they claim they treat. Thats how kids become chronic mental patients."

One term is rebound psychosis, or in the case of anti depressants, rebound depression. was it that you were thinking of?
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Re: The Bipolar Child

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:13 am

HaxX wrote: "I don't have the writing skills to realy explain how the withdrawal reactions of psychiatric drugs mimic almost perfectly (but with more intensity) the conditions they claim they treat. Thats how kids become chronic mental patients."

One term is rebound psychosis, or in the case of anti depressants, rebound depression. was it that you were thinking of?


There is more to it then just the rebound effect, mabey I could call it the "amnesia effect" The forgetting of "normal" during the withdrawal or rebound effects of these drugs. The false belife that the feelings rebound/withdrawal are "the illness"... leading to the "finding the right meds effect".

Finding the right meds effect = Treating side effects and withdrawal sypmtoms with more pills over and over again...

Make sence ?
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Re: The Bipolar Child

Postby HaxX » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:34 am

I think I understand. for example someone has been on an antidepressant for a long time and then when they get off of them and when their real feelings come back its alarming, and they think they are sick.
I dont remember what that is called either. :cry:
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Re: The Bipolar Child

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:44 pm

HaxX wrote:I think I understand. for example someone has been on an antidepressant for a long time and then when they get off of them and when their real feelings come back its alarming, and they think they are sick.
I dont remember what that is called either.


The "amnesia effect" I would describe as forgetting the real feelings before the pills, check this out:

"Are Our Psychiatric Medicines Spellbinding Us?

Ever wonder why you don’t feel like yourself when you’re supposed to feel better? Wonder why your family member seems to be getting worse instead of better, as the psychiatric drugs are piled on? Ever wonder why you or someone you care about seems changed by psychiatric drugs—made more depressed, more irritably, more anxious, and sometimes even dangerously distressed? "

And

“Medication spellbinding explains why so many people keep taking harmful psychiatric drugs, and other psychoactive substances, while only getting worse and even ruining their lives,” says Dr. Breggin. “The concept of medication spellbinding clarifies why people thinking they are better on Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, Xanax, Abilify, Seroquel, Zyprexa or other medications when their lives are deteriorating. Understanding medication spellbinding can help to free you and your loved ones from enslavement to psychoactive drugs of all kinds,” Dr. Breggin concluded. "

Quotes from: http://www.braindisablingtreatments.com ... nding.html


Looking back at the years I took all those pills I still say it was like an amnisia of some sort.
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Re: The Bipolar Child

Postby HaxX » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:50 pm

Hey copy_cat, This is a little off topic but have you read about how the DSM 5 is considering adding midnight snaking to its list of afflictions?
you should check it out. DSM 5:
http://www.dsm5.org/Pages/Default.aspx
"night eating syndrome"
http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevision/Pa ... spx?rid=26
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