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all out of ideas for topics

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:10 pm

I pray for all those looking for "the right meds" ... or that perfect way of feeling from a pill.
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Re: all out of ideas for topics

Postby Resurrection » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:42 pm

I'm not anti-psych or pro-psych...I feel I use some healthy skepticism. Somewhere in the middle.

My issues tend to be more with sugar coating side effects and blaming some of the particularly detrimental ones on the person taking the drugs. I'm sorry, but a lot of antipsychotics can cause metabolic problems despite healthy eating and exercise. Not that we shouldn't eat healthy and exercise, but you know what I mean.

I think medications have served an important purpose. They did and still help a lot of people. For example, my grandmother is the first in her family's three generations to have not committed suicide. She lost her parents, an aunt and an uncle, her grandparents, and her great-grandparents to mood and psychotic disorders. They weren't hospitalized at any point. They just kept it together long enough to see their grandchildren, and then they ended their lives. My grandmother has been through some rough times, but Depakote has kept her out of the abyss. She's eighty and recently met my daughter.

There are a lot of people who don't need medication whatsoever. There are a lot of people who rely too much on medication when they need to make some lifestyle changes and utilize therapy. There are a lot old-school mental health professionals who haven't caught on to this recovery movement deal that's been brewing for a few years. There are insurance companies who would prefer to subsidize the cost of generic drugs than pay for therapy and wellness services, as they are in it for the money. The people who make laws on mental health issues who are politicians and have no education on mental health outside of some crappy Law and Order episodes. There are a lot of young psychiatrists who end up jaded with their field when they find themselves with a six figure debt and the only jobs they can get are fifteen minute med review factory services with community mental health. There are a lot of people with personality disorders who can't get therapy due to insurance and are often given some Seroquel just so they can keep themselves off the ledge for a few nights.

And the biggest problem of all is that we treat mental health as an option and not a need. People are given pills to shut them up. Mind you, I do take medication and I'm happy with it. But I have had the privilege with working with some great people who are a bit more enlightened than the average, and I have amazing health insurance which pays for a lot of different things in addition to medication. I also know that mental health is not as simple as some malfunctioning genes or taking a few pills. It's really freakin' complicated, and few seem to recognize that.
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Re: all out of ideas for topics

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:19 pm

Out of ideas for topics, I try to make topics that will show up on google searches.

Like my topic ,what are human rights vioIations ? . So some one asking google would find it and learn of the violations in mentaI heaIth .

any good ideas for topics ?
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Postby sunset_birth » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:00 am

Lack of auto regulation in the health care field. The doctor is still an all powerful bishop who knows the truth and cannot be wrong. The relationship model is so outdated that it is a wonder it was not yet busted.
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Re: all out of ideas for topics

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:47 pm

The internet busted them , when I became a victim of psychiatry I had an old PDR for info and also trusted them.

Psychiatry still spends billions on marketing, Abilify ads ... and lies anti depressant warnings on the ad for abilify the anti PSYCOTIC !! to decive people.

Look at this paste from www.abilify.com

Elderly people with psychosis related to dementia (for example, an inability to perform daily activities as a result of increased memory loss), treated with antipsychotic medicines including ABILIFY, are at an increased risk of death compared to placebo. ABILIFY is not approved for the treatment of people with dementia-related psychosis (see Boxed WARNING).

Antidepressants may increase suicidal thoughts or behaviors in some children, teenagers, and young adults, especially within the first few months of treatment or when the dose is changed. Depression and other serious mental illnesses are themselves associated with an increase in the risk of suicide. Patients on antidepressants and their families or caregivers should watch for new or worsening depression symptoms, unusual changes in behavior, or thoughts of suicide. Such symptoms should be reported to the patient’s healthcare professional right away, especially if they are severe or occur suddenly. ABILIFY is not approved for use in pediatric patients with depression (see Boxed WARNING).

"treated with antipsychotic medicines including ABILIFY" then deception by anti depressant warnings.
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Re: all out of ideas for topics

Postby sunset_birth » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:28 pm

What I like is the free trial, when they know it creates dependency.
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Re: all out of ideas for topics

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:06 am

sunset_birth wrote:What I like is the free trial, when they know it creates dependency.


That was a good one,

all out of ideas again. thinking of "whats the best anti-psych video on youtube" as a topic so a list and arguements make a long thread mabey.
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Re: all out of ideas for topics

Postby sunset_birth » Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:44 pm

Copy_Cat wrote:
sunset_birth wrote:What I like is the free trial, when they know it creates dependency.


That was a good one,

all out of ideas again. thinking of "whats the best anti-psych video on youtube" as a topic so a list and arguements make a long thread mabey.


I tend not to look at youtube personally, due to bandwidth issues.

Maybe all the failed experimentations on drugs done over the years and the scandals that eventually came up. (Not sure if you did one of those)

There is also the issue that there is almost no training on abnormal psychology in the curriculum. Or so I have heard. So I wonder what they are studying.

Also, there is a fine line they are walking with on one side human rights and the other, a need of society to get rid of an undesirable problem. I don't think they always fall on the right side.

Using medication that are not properly tested for a particular problem is often cited and a common issue the media pick on. I think it is called off-labelling or something similar. Like using anti-psychotics for anxiety or arthritis (not sure if they do that last one). ;)
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Re: all out of ideas for topics

Postby Xena » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:19 pm

Hi all, I'm new here. I'll probably spend some time ranting on this forum. I frikkin hate Child Protection Workers. My son's doctors are usually fine, once we get past the Church Ladies. But those self-righteous, *slut-shaming* self-appointed housework cops drive me mental! Half of them are volunteers who read a few hundred pages of some Freudian shite about abuse, and then think they're 'experts' qualified to launch a crusade against all feminists and fashion-challenged women with hard-to-manage-hair :x I $#%^ thee not! One dumbass actually called my naturally curly hair 'unkempt' (I'd brushed it about 8 hours earlier), and tried to use that as an excuse to foist a diagnosis onto me! Raising children without a husband gets these women's panties in such a bunch they'd be comical if they weren't trying to put my children in a potentially dangerous place.

Anyhoodle, I have a long story to tell about the legacy of the Canadian Residential School System and the way our government still dumps mental illness diagnoses onto entire families for the sake of creating excuses to steal our children, to try to bully us. I'd like to do some research first, tho, put some actual stats in front of all of you, so I'm not dismissed as a crackpot, and blamed for my harassers' wrongdoing. Talking about this stuff is more difficult than talking about wrongful criminal charges. Everybody thinks we're 'guilty' and we deserve everything we get. :( Or stupid, incapable of having an opinion that doesn't stem from whatever stereotyped notion of mental illness they're wrongly accusing us of being sick with!

For now, here's a story idea. (Excuse me if somebody's already posted about this--I've only been skimming Anti-Psych posts for a few hours--I may have missed something.)

In honour of the life and work of Dr. David L Rosenhan. His work continues to inspire me through my fight:

http://blogs.law.stanford.edu/newsfeed/ ... y-emeritus
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Re: all out of ideas for topics

Postby Copy_Cat » Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:44 am

Xena wrote:Hi all, I'm new here. I'll probably spend some time ranting on this forum. I frikkin hate Child Protection Workers...they'd be comical if they weren't trying to put my children in a potentially dangerous place.



"Thirty-nine percent of the foster care children aged 0-17 on Medicaid were prescribed at least one psychiatric drug. By comparison, 10 percent of non-foster care children in Massachusetts were prescribed at least one psychotropic medication under Medicaid. It's serious enough when 10 percent of non-foster care children from our poorer communities are receiving psychiatric drugs; it's even more tragic when 39 percent of our most poor and abandoned children are being inundated with these drugs. "

Read more: The Psychiatric Drugging of America's Foster Children

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter- ... 49805.html

Use the key words Psychiatric +Drugs +Foster+Children on google and read 100s more sites all about how Child Protection Workers "protect" them.

This is an idea for a topic.
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