I believe all psychologists should learn about

sunset_birth wrote:The only thing they need is oversight. You can't expect people to act right without oversight.

The good thing is that it is happening as we speak. I saw an article yesterday about some law-enforcement agency that will be looking at over-medication in the US. That's a start a quite a breakthrough. Doctors are not all-powerful anymore when it comes to meds.

As far as mental institutions, that is still to be done, but you can bet that the baby boomers that are now entering them and foster care homes will be whining about every other little thing, so it is likely to happen very soon there as well.

There used to be a culture of abuse where authority was all-powerful. It is only in the last decade or two that this started to change. There is still a lot of resistance on the part of the last abusers, but they are retiring. It is just a matter of time until there is some real accountability in the health care field.

Thanks for sharing your story, it was nice to read.

lol @ the comment about baby boomers

if there was ever a more spoilt generation history is yet to see them

Infinite_Jester wrote:

Copy_Cat wrote:I belive if all of us who belive in the cause spread links, or make web pages and youtube videos about anti-psych (better known as the truth)

Again, I don't believe that anti-psych exists. Criticisms of psychiatry's system of classification, the normative practices for the ascription of mental health diagnoses, ethical arguments against forced treatment, civil commitment and community treatment orders, protests to the use of psychiatric medications on children and the elderly (typically for dementia), conceptual criticisms of the use of the term "mental illness" or "mental disease", the proliferation of psychiatric medications in Western society, and broader complaints about the field's impersonal and dehumanizing treatment and understanding of people are all themselves part of psychiatry and psychology's rich subject matter which includes criticism.

People who say they are against psychiatry don't understand that the term has no clear meaning. It seems like people are forgetting Thomas Szasz, Ronald Laing, and Franco Basaglia were/are psychiatrists who practice psychiatry. Also, phenomenology, gestalt and humanism are alternative paradigm's that still exist in psychology. There is no reason to describe them as "anti-" anything.

for someone who does "not believe" in anti psychiatry you sure spend a lot of time in the anti-psych forum

it is a term that describes the movement that took place that was in fact against the established thoughts and practises of psychiatry, that notables within this movement were also psychiatrists is a moot point. I agree that anti-psychiatry is in fact psychiatry which is why I made this topic about how I believe all psychologists should be familiar with it, you continually coming in with the same semantics repeated is starting to annoy me. I get your point but in repeating it you seem not to be getting the point anyone else is making within this anti-psych forum, so get over the semantics of what it is called already, you're obviously knowledgeable about the subject so I'd rather hear you debate theories rather than semantics.

sunset_birth wrote:

Copy_Cat wrote:I wanted to say on this post I believe all psychologists should learn about the EFFECTS of there drugs by TAKING them a few times !!!

For sure, especially since the drugs are harmless. The police get to learn what it feels like to be tazed as part of their training, so I don't see why psychiatrists should not be drugged. How can you prescribe something you don't know anything about except for some paper report from some company with conflicts of interests. Would you trust a cook that refuses to taste his own meals?

LOL @ police getting tazed

I agree, I'm pretty annoyed at a doctor who prescribed me olanzapine after I had told her I had horrible experiences with it in the past, she insisted that it shouldn't do anything bad to me and tried to trick me into it by telling me she was prescribing Zyprexa which is just a brand name that makes olanzapine and I had never heard of it so I agreed, I was really annoyed when I got my prescription and looked at the box and realised it was olanzapine. So I didn't take it, when I saw her next I told her I hadn't taken it and why and all she did was say how she was annoyed I hadn't come back to her and that it was a really low dose.. she talked me into it by saying I only had to take it when I felt like nit, not all the time....
well every time I take it I basically am not functional for the next two days, I sleep like 20 hours a day on it and not a restful sleep, a rather fitful disturbed sleep, and while a sleep problem is one of things I'm trying to combat with it I can forget it if I want to take it the night before work... so if I can't sleep the night before work I just have to put up with that and if I ever want to catch up on any sleep I have to wait until I've got 2 days off so I can take a friggen olanzapine and go into an unrestful coma/zombie like state... now if my doctor had ever taken this horrid $#%^ in her life she would have sooner prescribed me valium than this #&*%head $#*! and I would much sooner have taken it.... at least I would know the effects would not last 2 friggen days and that I would still be in a functional state and able to work plus it would probably be just what I need to pop off to sleep... why don't they prescribe stuff like that anymore? Is it because it's actually good and does what it's meant to and has done for people for how long now? and they can only prescribe horrible new $#*! like olanzapine? Is that why? Because if so that's just stupid and if you're going to experiment with new drugs on people then the least you can damn well do is listen to what the people taking them say it does to them or damn well take it yourself, because like sunset said these new drugs they prescribe are supposed to be "harmless".... if so don't argue with your patient about it unless you're willing to take it yourself.