WHO SAYS YOU NEED ANTIPSYCHOTIC DRUGS ?

Sorry I have not been around to post more of my ideas that could help -YOU- defeat mental illness. I have been trying to find -Help- with my ideas at other forums web sites to no avail. While doing research I came accross one of my interesting ideas, why do the vast majority of human beings with mental illness need any antipsychotic drugs? The vast majority of people with mental illness are not a threat to themselves or anybody else, so why are we druging these people and making them into zombies. The drug companies and the supposed mental health professionals and bureaucrats etc. all have everything to gain financially to get people with mental illness into the system and the only way out is -Suicide- (Violent & Passive). So as parents and caregivers and loved ones think twice before you or your loved one gets involved with the mental health industry.
PS, ask any supposed mental health professional what their -Suicide- rate (Violent & Passive) is and do they offer non antipsychotic drug treatment plans, your loved ones life is at stake?

"Needs" O.k it goes like this most of the time.

Psychiatric drugs cause withdrawal reactions, including the antidepressants, tranquilizers, antipsychotic drugs and 'mood stabilizers' (mood removers) .

Of course nobody wants to exist as a zombie then trys to stop taking them.

Then then the individual’s condition grows markedly worse within days or weeks of stopping the psychiatric drug, this is almost always due to a withdrawal reactions. However, misinformed doctors and misled parents, teachers and even patients belive that this is evidence that the individual "needs" the drug even more, when in fact its caused by these drugs in the first place and he or she just needs time to recover from withdrawal effects.

In all due respect because I do not have mental illness, I am talking from years of observations and had the real trust of the clients. The vast, vast majority of people with mental illness and their loved ones and society as a whole are -Brain Washed- in almost all aspects of mental illness. Therefore almost everything connected to mental illness is suspect and since their are thousands of variations and millions of different opinions who can say what reality is for human beings with mental illness. Since the real -Suicide- rate is so high I wonder if the mental health industry is not responsible and the mental disorder is not the real problem?

My own 3 minor daughters are in state care. I seriously believe that a majority of children in state care on psychiatric drugs do not need them. Children are placed on these to declare they "need medication" so that the agencies can keep them in the system. Many of these drugs CAUSE the very symptoms that are supposedly treated. People become depressed and suicidal both when taking these drugs and when they are stopped. Also, many legitimate instances of depression can be helped with the aid of a patient and understanding therapist. We all carry emotional baggage and some need more support than others. Some people may truly have disorders which might require medication, but I object to the wholesale diagnosis that if you are troubled drugs are needed to help you. If we weren't capable of being troubled emotionally, experiencing grief, sadness, anxiety, anger, etc. we would cease to be a living being also capable of love, joy, compassion and passion. Reckless prescribing of these drugs is a crime against humanity and I believe an entire generation is going to be suffering from serious health issues down the road.

Who says you need them? Nobody. The decision is between a doctor and patient. Nobody can force you to take a drug if you don't want it.

There are people who can be assisted with therapy. There are also people who need medications to keep depression or other issues in check. Anyone who says otherwise is either selling some snake-oil therapy or have been reading too many articles on FoxNews. These therapists or providers are usually anti-med because they are not MD's and cannot prescribe medications. They make their living by providing therapy, not drugs. People who find medication a help in alleviating depression and get their life back to normal take business away from them. Obviously, not all therapists are like this but some are fiercly anti-med, for the reasons noted.

Then there are always people who had issues with depression and went through therapy and it was helpful in tackling the issues that caused the underyling symptoms of depression. These types usually declare that if I didn't need them, nobody does. Their reasoning is totally unscientific or rational. Their thinking is black and white and they take a single case as statistical proof that meds are a crock and a conspiracy exists between the manufactuers and the psychiatrist to keep people hooked. These folks are also the most vocally anti-medication you will come acrosss. Ignore these people.

Then there are those such as myself, where medication has provided great benefits in quality of life enhancement and have found only minimal benefits via therapy in addressing issues with depression and anxiety. Sometimes, people in my situation might say therapy is worthless and a crock. Ignore these people too.

The issue of meds is not black and white. Everyone is different and nobody here can tell you that medications or therapy is the way to go. Consider all options, get second options if you are skeptical. But never let any one individual tell you that they know for a fact that this or that is the only method for you. This is a sure sign that you are either being marketed snake oil are talking to an ignorant fool or a parnoid NWO conspiracist.

Existentialist wrote:Nobody can force you to take a drug if you don't want it.

Forgetting something?

Infinite_Jester wrote:

Existentialist wrote:Nobody can force you to take a drug if you don't want it.

Forgetting something?

I did forget where my car was parked today when coming out of the grocery store.

Anwyays, I have a feeling that a conspiracy theory or NWO enslavement story is coming so I will bow out. Already gave my opinion. Nobody has to agree with it . Not interested in discussing how the CIA is covertly placing medicine in our tap water supplies to take control of the population. That's usually where discussions about medications end up.

Existentialist wrote:
I did forget where my car was parked today when coming out of the grocery store.

Anwyays, I have a feeling that a conspiracy theory or NWO enslavement story is coming so I will bow out. Already gave my opinion. Nobody has to agree with it . Not interested in discussing how the CIA is covertly placing medicine in our tap water supplies to take control of the population. That's usually where discussions about medications end up.

Nice "Straw Man" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man_argument). The point I made was that people are forced to take antpsychotics.

BTW - It's not the CIA poisoning our water supply to narcotize us to the point where they can take over it's the alien illuminati. Idiot...

anti-psychotic drugs = horrible for me and they've tried me on a few

want to make me completely disfunctional? try me on another anti-psychotic, freakin' horrible stuff.

After taking that stuff I really wonder is it such a bad thing to self medicate with marijuana? Now I don't suggest this is the right drug for everyone but I tell you what, some of the reactions I've had to ant-psychotics and other medications are far worse than any reactions I've ever had after smoking a joint.

God help me.... society is not made for me. I'm not advocating illegal drugs... I'm just advocating that something like marijuana should perhaps be made legal and that I should not be a criminal simply for taking a natural plant that seems to soothe my ever aching and never stopping brain.

Yes some people have had bad reactions to marijuana but some people have also been allergic to pop tarts and gone crazy after eating one for breakfast.

On pot, I can actually sleep (something that is usually difficult for me, onset insomnia)... I can actually eat (when severely depressed I usually cannot eat anything) and I can slow my brain to a manageable speed (it's usually running a amok and driving itself crazy otherwise)... I also suffer no bad side-effects from having marijuana... other than a cough if I smoke too much. Not to mention that I generally just feel good after having had pot.

I've had prescribed medications that have have made me incapable of doing anything, had horrible side effects for me and just exhausted me... the worst of which for me have been anti-psychotics.

Sorry I have not been around, still looking for answers...
Now after reading some of the latest posts I seem to get a misunderstanding about mental illness by the general public and people with mental illness and since professionals have a financial stake in mental illness their opinions are self serving in the vast majority of cases. Now that being said, if you are lucky enough to gain the real -Trust- of many human beings with dozen's of different types of mental illness and mental disorders etc. and you have -Empathy- for these people etc. etc. etc.. Then you will learn the -Horror- of antipsychotic medications etc. and the -Horror- of false hope of recovery offered by mental health professionals. The -Horrow- of medical procedures that use experimentation on human beings with mental illness and call this -Help- not torture because that is what it is. The real reality for almost everybody with or dealing with mental illness such as caregivers and loved ones etc. and the people with mental illness themselves is that they -Only- deal with the area of mental illness that concerns them. If you walk among -All- the human beings with different types of mental illness and mental disorders etc. and have gained their real trust, then you are a real -Expert- in the mental health field. Almost all of the mental health industry is self serving -Bull S...- that helps nobody because of the constant -Brain Washing- that the mental health industry imposes on individual human beings and their families etc. with mental illness...

PS, the supposed help or cure of the mental health industry is far worse then if you did -Nothing- for people with mental illness, even -Suicide- is far better than a lifetime of supposed help and suffering and then -Suicide- to end all the pain and suffering and false hope of the mental health professionals. Remember the -Real Horror- of mental illness is that they hear voices in their heads telling them to do horrible things to themselves or others etc. and depression so severe they can't function etc.. How about taking antipsychotic drugs that make you feel like -Shit- all the time etc., how about your brain constantly telling you that your a freak etc. and if you just try for the millionth time to be normal etc. etc. etc.. The best part of mental illness is that -You- have all of the above and more 24hours a day, everyday, all month long and year after year -You- and your family and friends etc. pray to -God- for an end to this -Horror-. Then the really best part of mental illness is that by ending your pain and suffering -You- commit -Suicide- and go to -Hell- because -God- has abandoned -You-, what a way to die, relief and sorrow at the same time..
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PS, all of the above is the inner thoughts of the vast majority of human beings with mental illness and mental disorders etc... The one thing they don't want their families and loved ones and mental health professionals etc. to know or deal with is that they think of and fight the thoughts of -Suicide- 24hours a day, day in and day out...