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To all you oh-so-Freudian thinkers

Postby jdnewell » Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:09 pm

Psych is all about having blind yet unflagging allegiance to the conceptualizations of some queer little guy from Austria... much like Naziism was.
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Postby Guest » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:04 am

Many people seem to be unaware of psychiatry's links to the eugenics movement and how Hiltler endorsed publications of the American Psychiatric Associations.

I wish more people would research these historical links and gain an understanding of what is behind the ideology (psychiatry is not a science) of psychiatry.

Type "american psychiatric association eugenics movement" into Google and have a look around.
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Postby Guest » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:52 pm

Freud wasnt a Psychiatrist 'jd' he was what would now be called analytical-psychologist, as was jung!

Freud has little if no relivence to modern-psychiatric-sciences, where as himself & jung are closely tied to analytical psychology. Thats a very biggoted opinion JD and considering the fact Heir Frued was Jewish and suffered at the hands of the nazis, a tad insensitive to the mans memory.

May i suggest if you have something to say on psychiatry you make a point in a manner that is not spitefully derogatory & misleading about someone who is now dead and not alive to defend himself, this kind of misinformation helps no one, weither they be anti-psych or pro-psych
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Postby jdnewell » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:45 pm

OK, then lemme juz say..
if i'm gonna be JUDGED, it's either gonna be by God Himself; or it damn well better be in PUBLIC, in the light of hard EVIDENCE, as weighed by a jury of my PEERS... not in some cozy hidden-away chamber where some deluded despotic aristocrat summarily calls all the shots as whim may strike him, based on what just perchance "comes off the top of his HEAD!!"
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Postby Guest » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:04 pm

Freud was a raging cocaine addict, I don't have any regard for anything he said.

If I want to read the ramblings of a junkie, I prefer Burroughs or Bukowski. :wink:
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Postby badtrip » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:43 pm

I don't know that much about Freud but in my undergrad Psych class on the History of Psychology, we got a pretty good idea that most current pscyhologists are not psychoanlytic in the model of Freud, and that most of his opinions are not valid. I am not defending psychiatry here. But I also know that psychology is a science, my husband is a psychologist and all of their research follows the scientific method. Most of what they claim in relation to mental illnesses are based on theories and opinions, and most of their research comes up with correlations, not causations. The problem with psychology is that it deals with human behavior, and it is hard to understand and predict human behavior. We can see patterns in outcomes and practices, make generalizations, and say what we think is likely, but we can't read minds or control other people. I feel like the pills of psychiatry are an attempt to help us control ourselves, like the doctor just wants to make everything all better. But our problems are complex and often have something to do with both medical problems and situations. For example the things we put in our bodies make us feel like crap, and some of us have underlying medical conditions like my thyroid condition that may be part of our problem with depression and anxiety. The rest is all about choices, attitudes, and situations. We should be looking at ways to improve our situations, improve our attitudes, and make better choices, not just take a pill because we have some anxiety or a bad thought. Being a human is about experiencing life and our emotions. I hate that Wellbutrin commercial that says "I wake up ready to experience life." Right now there is a depression hurts commercial on. So crappy. It claims that if you go to depressionhurts.com you can find out how to treat your depression with a drug that affects serotonin and norepinephrine.
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Postby jdnewell » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:27 am

Not to worry, badtrip... for I can tell you with the utmost surety that The Human Condition will mercifully cease to exist come 3/21/2012. It was just a limited run in the first place, this so-called 'intelligent' species.. ha! what a laugh!

Yes, it was just a delusion, all along, the supposed 'glory' of our race. The ancients realized it perfectly. Back in those days they could divine things with much heightened clarity, for there wasn't television and so much utter CRAP going on around them. Yes, they realized that the human condition is naught but a limited run. Life is for flora and fauna, NOT for people who put a million innocent children in the ovens to burn to death alive while the mastermind of that undertaking receives the keenest of all conceivable adulation from the millions lining the streets at his public parades.

Yes, there is apparent cruelty and violence in the animal kingdom too, but it is actually quite reasonable and even rather TAME as compared to what Homo Sapiens will conjure up.

So don't despair badtrip, it'll soon be ALL OVER. It was utter depravity from the git-go, and Jesus freaks made it a thousand times worse: just more blind stupidity heaped on.

No, don't fret, for I can positively PROMISE you there will be NO survivors, afer 2012... no memories, no nightmares, no paranoia, no terrorism, no atomic warfare -- nothing for mankind but his total merciful eradication, from planet and from mindset.

Yes: GOD IS GOOD! ..and NO, He never bore a son. If you think He did and you worship that entity, you're worshipping The Devil
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Postby Guest » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:52 am

jdnewell.

2012, I'm looking forward to it as well. :D
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Postby Guderian » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:11 am

jdnewell wrote:Not to worry, badtrip... for I can tell you with the utmost surety that The Human Condition will mercifully cease to exist come 3/21/2012. It was just a limited run in the first place, this so-called 'intelligent' species.. ha! what a laugh!

Yes, it was just a delusion, all along, the supposed 'glory' of our race. The ancients realized it perfectly. Back in those days they could divine things with much heightened clarity, for there wasn't television and so much utter CRAP going on around them. Yes, they realized that the human condition is naught but a limited run. Life is for flora and fauna, NOT for people who put a million innocent children in the ovens to burn to death alive while the mastermind of that undertaking receives the keenest of all conceivable adulation from the millions lining the streets at his public parades.

Yes, there is apparent cruelty and violence in the animal kingdom too, but it is actually quite reasonable and even rather TAME as compared to what Homo Sapiens will conjure up.

So don't despair badtrip, it'll soon be ALL OVER. It was utter depravity from the git-go, and Jesus freaks made it a thousand times worse: just more blind stupidity heaped on.

No, don't fret, for I can positively PROMISE you there will be NO survivors, afer 2012... no memories, no nightmares, no paranoia, no terrorism, no atomic warfare -- nothing for mankind but his total merciful eradication, from planet and from mindset.

Yes: GOD IS GOOD! ..and NO, He never bore a son. If you think He did and you worship that entity, you're worshipping The Devil


When 2012 comes and nothing happens I am going to laugh at you.
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Postby chickadee » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:45 am

Can someone clue me in here? What the hell is the big deal about 2012? Did I miss a cult's announcement about the "end of days" or something? :roll:
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