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Re: Psych Hospital Abuse Storys

Postby MirageXD » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:35 pm

Dear BuffyJ (edited by mod),

you need to find yourself a good therapist. That's what you need. Suing people is not going to help you. Officials you talked to won't help you, because they can see that you have emotional problems. It is a simple fact. It's always better to recognize your own problems instead of blaiming other people.

Trust me, a therapy is what you need.

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Re: Psych Hospital Abuse Storys

Postby BuffyJ » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:55 am

Thank you for your reply. You are right. Suing the Health trust or hospital is not the answer. And even I could,I was told I would more than likely, not get legal aid. Which is a service paid for by the government. And that I would have to pay for all legal costs,that is lawyers,costs for taking the health trust to court myself. And even if I did get legal aid,if I were to take the health trust to court and lost the case.I would have to pay all of the legal fees and court costs,which would be several thousand pounds. And I don't have that kind of money anyway.

I am English and legal aid is a free service that the government pays for if you are on a low income. And have savings under £3000 pounds or on benefits with savings under £3000 pounds.In most cases legal aid covers seeing a lawyer for a consultation, but certainly does not cover suing the health trust unless in extreme circumstances and also there has to be proof of a case.

And I would have to be able to proved that I was badly treated. And I cannot really, as there were no witnesses, it is my word against theirs, and there is no written evidence on the medical records either.Well there would not be. As it is obvious that the A+E nurse would not write down in my medical notes that she told me to throw myself under a bus. She would not be that stupid as to admit what she said to me. So of course, it would not be in any of my medical notes what she said.

And you are right,I do not think that suing the health trust is the answer. And also it could turn the health trust against me and possibly stop me getting the support that I am now getting. Also most lawyers in England to not want to do any more than what they have to. Even in other cases,such as housing problems,and other things.

Most people with low incomes only get to see a lawyer through legal aid. And if for example the government will only pay for £200 pounds funding,a lawyer or solicitor, as they are mostly called in England. Will not do anything that is going to go over that funding. It is all about money to a lawyer or solicitor.

And as for charities and organisations like Mind and ICAS,well a lot of these charities are under funded and so provide a limited service. And probably work within the lines of the health trusts rather than against them. And so my problem is not covered by their services.

And as far as I know I do not know of any charities or support organisations for people who have been abused or mistreated by their health trust or hospital in England. There is no any in England that I know of.

Yes that nurse was wrong to say what she said to me.

A+E nurse said after I told her my father had just died and my family had cut me off. And I was feeling suicidal-

A+E nurse at the hospital said-
It is easy to kill yourself.You can throw yourself under a train or a bus,take insectaside,jump off a tall building.
Then laughed.

And I have taken it personally. But anyone else who would have spoken to her would have got the same treatment. She was not a very nice person. And the A+E psychiatrist that I also saw most probably did not want to get involved with my problems. Some people are just like that.

And the abuse I suffered was verbal not physical abuse. But I should have at least got an apology from the health trust manager, for the way that that nurse and psychiatrist spoke to me. As it was totally unacceptable.

And I think the reason that I am finding some people not showing me the sympathy that I am expecting them to,like my psychiatrist. Is that someone told me a lot of doctors will not condemn another doctor or medical person. And as it happened in the same health trust,some of the professionals may find it difficult to take sides with me against,what could be their fellow workers.

But on the other hand a lot of psychiatrist do not respond to other patients emotions in the same way that for example a friend or a councillor would. Most psychiatrists tend to just write and not talk.

But the experience has had a long lasting effect on me. And I have not lived a happy or easy life since my father died. For me it is the hardest thing in the world to loose my father and not even have a family to turn to. And harder still, when I look at other people around me who have still got their parents. Or may have lost a parent like I have but still have the support of the other parent or bothers or sisters. Which unfortunately I do not have.

But I have now come to accept that in view of the way the family treated me. And the fact that I and other members of my family,the aunts and uncles, have tried several times over the years to talk to my mother and sisters. But they have not listened to me or my uncles and aunts who have talked to them on my behalf. So the problems with my family has not been resolved. And may never be.

And so I decided to stop seeing my family myself in 2008. As I realised after years of trying. That even though they did let me visit the house,my mother and sisters did not care about me and did not want to get involved.And would not help me in a crisis like my dad would do. And that is why I stopped seeing them.

And now I want to move to another area, or another part of England to an area that is not controlled by health trust authorities. To get away from health trust authorities. And then I would be under a different health trust who may be more sympathetic to me. And it would also be a new start.

But it is very difficult to get private rented accommodation here in England and very expensive.And I may not be able to afford it. And private landlords are strict about who they take on as tenants.

But I think that it is good that I have come out a talked about my experience. And I do feel better venting off here.

And after reading some of the stories on here in this thread,which I am shocked by. As some people who have posted here on this thread have been physically abused and forcibly drugged. But that did not happen to me.

So maybe I am more fortunate than some other people have been.

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Re: Psych Hospital Abuse Storys

Postby PinchOfSanity » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:44 am

I've never been institutionalized, but my next-door neighbor who is a good and caring man works at one. This story was a few years back, I'm not sure what he does now but there was a new colleague who worked at the facility with him and one day while checking up on the patients, one of them had a violent episode and the new colleague laughed it off and walked away, leaving my neighbor having to help the patient.

My neighbor confronted the new colleague and went and complained but higher-authorities gave little recognition to the issue. Tiny things like this is what messes up facilities. If you are going to work at a mental institution, the workers must understand that everyone is in there for a reason and some will be harsh to you and some will just seem "odd", abuse is just another way to feel like you have power and domination over something, it is sad.
So, where is your head at after all?
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Re: Psych Hospital Abuse Storys

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:15 am

I saw a man who didnt interact much, he kind of liked to just sit and stare forward when I was in the hospital. I think he was already full of some sort of antipsychotic and it just took to much effort to think and awnser people at the time but he was present. He decided he was just going to sit on the floor leaning back on the wall in the hallway to watch activity even though he was told to sit in the day room. This was taken as an act of "defiance" so they picked him up took him to his bed, no strugging or very little he was just dragged along. They pulled down his pants stuck the needle in his buttocks injecting something and in less then a minute I saw arm and leg shaking reactions set in.

And the girl who was fine just focused on nothing but going home and hating that hospital given the electro convulsive therapy and coming back with that perma-smile on her face all bugged out like that. Thats just so wrong, she was a teenager.
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Re: Psych Hospital Abuse Storys

Postby Infinite_Jester » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:46 am

Copy_Cat wrote:I saw a man who didnt interact much, he kind of liked to just sit and stare forward when I was in the hospital. I think he was already full of some sort of antipsychotic and it just took to much effort to think and awnser people at the time but he was present. He decided he was just going to sit on the floor leaning back on the wall in the hallway to watch activity even though he was told to sit in the day room. This was taken as an act of "defiance" so they picked him up took him to his bed, no strugging or very little he was just dragged along. They pulled down his pants stuck the needle in his buttocks injecting something and in less then a minute I saw arm and leg shaking reactions set in.

And the girl who was fine just focused on nothing but going home and hating that hospital given the electro convulsive therapy and coming back with that perma-smile on her face all bugged out like that. Thats just so wrong, she was a teenager.


Witnessing abuse can sometimes be more painful then actually being abused.
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Re: Psych Hospital Abuse Storys

Postby Copy_Cat » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:41 am

Infinite_Jester wrote: Witnessing abuse can sometimes be more painful then actually being abused.

Very true.

Anouther guy I saw in there was almost "dancing" as he shifted his weight from one leg to anouther, he was there for substance abuse. He thought or was told it was from drug withdrawal but just started taking a load of "abilify" he told me. I asked "well does that always happen when you come down" ?
I told him it was the brain disabling "abilify" reaction. None of those retards that dish out the psych drugs in that place ever took them, they don't have a clue.
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Re: Psych Hospital Abuse Storys

Postby Copy_Cat » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:49 pm

Uploaded by thegodessofkumbalaya on Jan 13, 2010
"I've been hospitalized into a psychiatric ward several times in my teen years. I still can't get some of the memories of what happened to me in there out of my head. This video was made for awareness purposes. Ignorance isn't always bliss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5C_J0-hRDY
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Re: Psych Hospital Abuse Storys

Postby lken » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:53 pm

in Texas they could not afford to keep people in the state hospitals, but have the largest jails in the world, what is the difference? anyway the patients are homeless on the streets now. now there is a bigger homeless problem, no jobs, it will get bigger. so i guess we can make more jails , but not hospitals.
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Re: Psych Hospital Abuse Storys

Postby lken » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:02 am

so is it cheaper to give out zombie drugs than be put in a Psyche hospital, sort of like the 1984 story the allotment of gin. i guess pretty soon everyone will have there allotment of mood stabilizers or tantalizers, keep us under control. what is the moral of this story, the zombies frying of America. i suppose it is not going on here but other countries too. we need to be good clones, do what we say, are you will be put back in the box, or is that the tube.
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Re: Psych Hospital Abuse Storys

Postby Copy_Cat » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:21 am

I have seen people having horrible panic attacks anxiety agitation and finaly rage after they are prevented from smoking.

Smoking is used an instrument of control in many of these places.

You cant have a 20 cent cigarette right now, behave or you get a $100+ shot of haldol against your will to shut you up.

I have seen this.
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