Caffeine

Anonymous wrote:According to the DSM IV coffee has it's part to play in the diagnosing of a deranged mind.

Coffee drinking, including coffee nerves (305.90);
Inability to sleep after drinking too much coffee (292.89),

Here are some others

(292.9) Shyness, also known as Asperger’sDisorder);
Sleepwalking (307.46);
Jet lag (307.45);
Snobbery (301.7, a subset of Antisocial Personality Disorder);
Insomnia (307.42);
to say nothing of tobacco smoking, which includes both getting hooked (305.10) and going cold turkey (292.0).
You were out of your mind the last time you had a nightmare (307.47).
Clumsiness is now a mental illness (315.4).
So is playing video games (Malingering, V65.2).
So is just about anything done “vigorously”.
So, under certain circumstances, is falling asleep at night.”

What a load of #######4!

Psychiatry must be held to account!

Psychiatry must be reformed.

Actually, although I do have an issue with the level of over-diagnosis of any deviation from the norm as an illness, you are inaccurate. Being diagnosed as having a mental disorder does not immediately qualify this you as deranged, which is a specific disorder with it's own critieria, and certainly doesn't immediately make you "out of your mind".

That idea does not come from the psychiatric profession, but the layperson who assumes that crazy is crazy, and having any mental disorder means that you will be the next Jason Vorhees.

So, there are two sets of people who need to be held to account, psychiatry, for pathologizing any deviation from the normal, and for the layperson overestimating the meaning of mental illness. That latter group includes you.

Anonymous wrote:According to the DSM IV coffee has it's part to play in the diagnosing of a deranged mind.

Coffee drinking, including coffee nerves (305.90);
Inability to sleep after drinking too much coffee (292.89),

Here are some others

(292.9) Shyness, also known as Asperger’sDisorder);
Sleepwalking (307.46);
Jet lag (307.45);
Snobbery (301.7, a subset of Antisocial Personality Disorder);
Insomnia (307.42);
to say nothing of tobacco smoking, which includes both getting hooked (305.10) and going cold turkey (292.0).
You were out of your mind the last time you had a nightmare (307.47).
Clumsiness is now a mental illness (315.4).
So is playing video games (Malingering, V65.2).
So is just about anything done “vigorously”.
So, under certain circumstances, is falling asleep at night.”

What a load of #######4!

Psychiatry must be held to account!

Psychiatry must be reformed.

Actually, although I do have an issue with the level of over-diagnosis of any deviation from the norm as an illness, you are inaccurate. Being diagnosed as having a mental disorder does not immediately qualify this you as deranged, which is a specific disorder with it's own critieria, and certainly doesn't immediately make you "out of your mind".

That idea does not come from the psychiatric profession, but the layperson who assumes that crazy is crazy, and having any mental disorder means that you will be the next Jason Vorhees.

So, there are two sets of people who need to be held to account, psychiatry, for pathologizing any deviation from the normal, and for the layperson overestimating the meaning of mental illness. That latter group includes you.

If you want to split hairs go for it, I wont play your game, shove it!

I know what culture I live in, I know what psychiatry is trying to do.

My point is ###$ psychiatry, pour petrol on the lot of them and torch them. Have I made my self clear this time????

Go look for an argument somewhere else. I have more important things to do than debate the obvious.

right.

And this has what to do with caffeine?



Stoopid troll.

january wrote:right.

And this has what to do with caffeine?



Stoopid troll.

Caffeine consumption is a diagnoseable mental illness with it's own billing code according to the DSM IV.

I think it is totally absurd that psychiatry can claim drinking coffee is a disease/mental illness.

Well that clarifies what my post has to do with caffeine.

Maybe you can now tell us what this thread you started (and obviously wish to control) has to do with anti-psychiatry?

Because a lot of people, myself included, aer being diagnosed with mental illness when they really just have too high a caffeine intake.

You must understand, this forum, to me, isn't just "psych-bashing"

I'd like people to start talking about alternatives to psychiactric medicine, and what are, to me, the real causes of most mental illness.

I posted that in the event it might help somebody find an alternative to their "disease"

Ranting about the evils of psychiatry doesn't help those afficted with mental illness.

You must help people take steps to find alternative resources and coping mechanisms.

Complaining is easy, isn't it? Especially with the internet. Especially with this nice comfy forum. Why don't put your money where your mouth is, as they say, and actually do something about it, rather than bitch and whine.

And BTW my question

january wrote:and this has what to do with caffeine?

was in response to this:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to split hairs go for it, I wont play your game, shove it!

I know what culture I live in, I know what psychiatry is trying to do.

My point is ###$ psychiatry, pour petrol on the lot of them and torch them. Have I made my self clear this time????

Go look for an argument somewhere else. I have more important things to do than debate the obvious.

I was confused what the connection was between my subject and this juvenile diatribe.

Go peddle your propaganda in another thread please. And register while you're at it, coward.

January,

I have just reviewed this entire thread, it has nothing to do with anti-psychiatry. Did you read what this forum was about before you started your thread?

I think your thread would probably suit the "Living with a mental illness forum" much better.

This forum is an anti-psychiatry and I assumed your caffeine thread related to the permeable aspects of psychiatry and caffeine.

I now realise it has nothing to do with psychiatry or anti-psychiatry my mistake. Maybe it should be moved to an appropriate forum, I was just trying to be on topic.

"Because a lot of people, myself included, aer being diagnosed with mental illness when they really just have too high a caffeine intake."

If you actually read what I posted you would realise caffeine consumption is a diagnosable mental illness with a billing code.

January,
What is the DSM IV?

Do you actually read people's posts?

I am against mainstream psychiatry that just labels and precribes.

I do not believe in "mental illness" in the traditional sense.

I posted this in the hopes that some under the guise of some label/diagnosis might recognise their *real* problem and seek alternatives to their current treatment.

Duh.