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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Mr. No One » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:50 pm

Let me get this straight....psychiatry is evil and scientology is correct? "Religion" or a belief system in God is the cause of ill in all of society? Lol Such sweeping generalization is illogical. I for one am a follower of Jesus and a diagnosed "antisocial." Could it be that God could use psychiatry for someones benefit? I think the answer is clear. Maybe this will help it make sense.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Arbie Wun » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:38 pm

Hmmm the religion debate is a fun one when you get into the meat of it. Has anyone truly considered the use of Psychiatry and a lot of its other arms in Religion at all?

I mean has anybody considered this point !!! Brain-washing is a basic form of psychiatric conditioning used to reprogram the masses to your whims, world militaries use it as do a lot of major corporations and it's highly prevailent in religion too.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby alone-at-last » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:19 pm

This guy reminds me of the fellow on the rooftop in the flood.

He prayed for divine intervention, "Save me God from this flood!!!"

A boat came and he refused to get on it, saying no God will save me!!

Another boat came hours later, and still he refused to get on it, saying no again, his God would save him!!

Then a helicopter came and he steadfastly refused believing in prayer and the power of God to save him.

Alas, he drowned.

Standing before God, wet and soggy I hope, he asked, God??? I called on you in faith earnestly!! Why didn't you save me?? Why didn't you answer my prayers???

God took one look at him and said, "I sent you two boats and a helicopter. What more did you want?"

Well, Paxil is my boat. Thank you God for giving mankind the brains to figure out just enough of how the brain works to make medicines that help it. Quite merciful of You I suggest!

Sincerely Yours,
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby danscott7 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:22 pm

Concerning psychiatry being a tool of terrorists, I think that is going overboard. But I agree that God may very well be the answer to people's mental problems.
I for example, know that I have always had a major, major problem perceiving and dealing with reality the same as others, since early childhood.
This in addition to a severe developmental disability, has kept me down. I am able to keep my head above water, but as far as succeeding in life, that feels impossible when I am not existing in the real world everyone else does, but instead trapped in my own little dream world.
And what do I get when I go to the mental health industry for help? Either told I am simply choosing to not turn my life around (even though I have a mental inability to deal with reality, that they ignore)
or, if they acknowledge I do indeed have a problem greater than simply choosing to not move forward, they tell me "Be happy anyway."
Then they mock God as a possible answer to my issues.
It is clear to me he may be the ONLY answer to my problem.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby jayjay7 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:14 am

I think where i have gone wrong in the past was giving my delusions to much glory. Thinking it was all spiritual warfare. Looking back i can see how i empowered my delusions by thinking this way because it gave me a false mindset that it was out of my control and this is not the case because It is in our control, and in my opinon most of us have the ability and intellect to renew and transform our minds.
In my opinion phychiatry is not evil and speaking from my experience it saved my life. When i first became chronically ill with phycosis i was put on medication which had very awful side effects and i was on a maximum dosage.
Over the years i have slowly regained mental health and i think digging deap and being patient and applying what ever method you like to overcome mental illness on top of medication all is a big help.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Brumble » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:58 pm

Faith is now enforced by making your self believe in things which are not realistic = delusions. They pound it in your head that realistic thinking is wrong, and say act by faith. It is a type of "brain washing", encouraging delusions, enough said. - been there done that, got away before it killed me.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby DeathDude72 » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:19 pm

Wow, well I disagree with just about everything I read here, even though I could only stomach reading less than half of it. 1) God doesn't exist. I have an invisible Tyrannosaurus Rex living in my basement, prove me wrong. 2) Scientology is the one that's the rip-off scheme. Your rank is determined by how much you pay to their church. Religion is simply a thing that makes a person feel good about themselves. As a schizoid, I have no need for that good feeling that you guys describe. Oh, btw, don't you live your life according to a 3,000 year old book? So you're the one brainwashed pal. I think I've proved my point enough, so I'll stop talking now.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Marv » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:19 pm

Acausal (I) wrote:Love's the answer to everythyng -- Am learnyng thys ryght now. Love conquers all such 'llnesses and fears/phobyas. There's no challenge agaynst pure Love because Love's the only truth. Psychology has only served to dystract us. Only through self-honesty are we capable of feelyng true love and happyness wythyn ourselves, and love/empathy for others (and all of lyfe, even our ego's enemyes) follows.
There's no proof agaynst Love.


That's a joke man. Love doesn't keep an addict from doing drugs. It doesn't solve mental problems. It doesn't put money in your pocket. It doesn't pay you bills and keep a roof over your head. Love keeps us going but doesn't solve many problems. Like with me, love didn't keep me from losing it when all those years ago, I thought I was going to give up and kill myself because of my uncle's addiction and my own demons. Then, when it did come time to go see somewhat, she didn't do what she said she would do. There were days where she didn't show up or she didn't want me to come in. That's one reason I gave up on therapy and went here and all over for help. Now I can't even get therapy because I got no insurance let alone a job.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Marv » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:30 pm

alone-at-last wrote:This guy reminds me of the fellow on the rooftop in the flood.

He prayed for divine intervention, "Save me God from this flood!!!"

A boat came and he refused to get on it, saying no God will save me!!

Another boat came hours later, and still he refused to get on it, saying no again, his God would save him!!

Then a helicopter came and he steadfastly refused believing in prayer and the power of God to save him.

Alas, he drowned.

Standing before God, wet and soggy I hope, he asked, God??? I called on you in faith earnestly!! Why didn't you save me?? Why didn't you answer my prayers???

God took one look at him and said, "I sent you two boats and a helicopter. What more did you want?"

Well, Paxil is my boat. Thank you God for giving mankind the brains to figure out just enough of how the brain works to make medicines that help it. Quite merciful of You I suggest!

Sincerely Yours,
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Yeah, but God didn't tell us how bad these medications affect most folks. Zoloft gave me the runs, shakes, and you're so tired that you can't do nothing. What benefits does it provide me? None at all. I can't get no more because I have no money or job. No insurance either. Can't do nothing about it now. Oh well. :(
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Quinta » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:49 pm

Acausal (I) wrote:Love's the answer to everythyng -- Am learnyng thys ryght now. Love conquers all such 'llnesses and fears/phobyas. There's no challenge agaynst pure Love because Love's the only truth. Psychology has only served to dystract us. Only through self-honesty are we capable of feelyng true love and happyness wythyn ourselves, and love/empathy for others (and all of lyfe, even our ego's enemyes) follows.
There's no proof agaynst Love.


Is your 'I' key broken or are you just an eccentric speller? You could be phobic of the letter 'I'. Love will cure what ails ya!

Love can certainly make living with a mental illness easier (or, under certain circumstances, more difficult) but it can't magically cure the mentally ill, just as it can't eradicate AIDS or revive corpses.

I've often wondered why love doesn't cure me of my depression. After I've made my way through the customary gauntlet of guilt and self-loathing, I reconcile myself with the reality of the illness. It's just that, an illness.
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