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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby imaduck » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:34 pm

i've come to realize that i am actually in control of my outbursts and that i sort of "explode"--oftentimes i freak out on people (it's kind of like a"LOOK AT ME, I'M AN ANXIOUS CATASTROPHE, SCREW YOU FOR MAKING ME FEEL THIS WAY AND WATCH ME LOSE IT" kind of feeling deep down) as revenge when i feel invalidated. if you pay VERY close attention to your internal reactions, you start to realize that these impulsive outbursts are very, very QUICK decisions that you can catch before letting yourself go nuts. intense self-awareness takes practice though, but basically... how do i explain? there is this INSTANT, after the feeling hits, during which time i decide to act. in that moment i remind myself of the inevitable downward spiral and practice, practice, practice self-discipline and positive/logical self-talk (i remind myself that i'm an autonomous human being and that the other person literally has no ability to control me--nor do they deserve my "attack," since they are not even really attacking me--and every person is their own network of self-centered operation, if that makes any sense). i still have trouble when it comes to taking my anger out on myself in private since i temporarily suppress it in public (like i said, control is redirection--you can't really ever push an emotion down, it just leaks out elsewhere), but physical activity helps a lot. running + angry music = AMAZING, seriously.

self-awareness and self-talk is key here, but outlets are important as well. more and more i'm beginning to realize that i'm angry and bitter because i WANT to be angry and bitter, or i'm anxious because i WANT to be anxious. if there are no healthy outlets, the whole world becomes an outlet... i'm still struggling to find different ways to let it out. like i said, exercise and music are great, do you do anything like that now?

one other trick... i like to think of it all as a challenge. i find that if you think about it positively, it gradually becomes a positive journey. but i'm a perfectionist and i can channel that aspect of myself into different facets of life, so the idea of a challenge that i can win helps me a ton.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby pheonixrise » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:09 am

I'm Christian, don't have a particular denomination.

To start with, psychiatry is all lies and can not help anyone, anywhere, anyhow.
God Himself is infact anti-psychiatry.

Disagree with all this completely.

As I said, health is our natural sate as we are all One with Spirit, with God who is Health.

This I can understand, healthy is how we are meant to be, and I do believe that going to God in prayer will help a person become healthy. However, if this were true, there would not be a single ill person - physically or mentally - in all the people who stay close to God.

Now for psychiatry. Psychiatry is just an evil money making scheme designed to keep people dependent on THE SYSTEM. It has links with Al Qeada and is a terrorist organisation. They are indeed anti God despite all their calaims of Faith, if they have any, and infact they are trying to use the power of God against Him and all of you.

There are always going to be people who want to use what they have to make us much as they can, including in psychiatry. That doesn't make every person involved in it evil. If there were links with any terrorist organisations, then the US would have banned it by now, and other countries would have followed. And I know plenty of Christian therapists, a couple of them used their faith to help me (and everything they said was in line with the Bible).

How life works is that what we focus on expands in our life, and we all know that psychiatry focuses on mental illness, not health and so they attract mental illness into their lives - its quite simple.

It is true that what we focus on gets bigger in our lives. Psychiatry focuses on healing from mental illness, and working towards mental health. When I am out of therapy, everything gets worse because I am focused on how overwhelming the symptoms are more often then not. Yes, prayer will help that, but I doubt that people who have read your post are about to start praying and searching for God because you said that's what they have to do.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Arbie Wun » Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:17 am

The claims that psychiatry is linked to Al Qaeda is like saying the holocaust that eradicated the millions of people during the 2nd World War was in fact allied propoganda.

As for money making schemes the Catholic Church is one of the richest businesses in the world yet they can provide us with no real proof that God exists, there is no proof the planet was created as the Bible says. There is no mention of the dinosaurs or how the millions of fossils they left behind, yet the Bible mentions a great flood they seem to have found evidence of a giant flood but not one of 'Biblical' proportions. The Bible also neglects races of people such as the Vikings, the Celts, the Incas, the Mayans, the Aztecs, the Indians, the Australian Aboriginies or even Asians. How can these people be explained as Gods creations if they don't even rate a mention in his 'book'.

Speaking of books the bible itself is given reference as the 'Good Book', after all it is just a collection of stories. Many cultures have stories about their 'Gods' and how the world was created, these were done so as to put fear into the masses thereby making them easier to control. Sacrifices were a way of reinforcing this control as was the rituals carried out by the Ancient Romans to attempt to remove the Christians from their society. In their time Christianity was simply a cult with a large amount of followers looking for something and someone to believe in.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Acausal (I) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:02 am

Love's the answer to everythyng -- Am learnyng thys ryght now. Love conquers all such 'llnesses and fears/phobyas. There's no challenge agaynst pure Love because Love's the only truth. Psychology has only served to dystract us. Only through self-honesty are we capable of feelyng true love and happyness wythyn ourselves, and love/empathy for others (and all of lyfe, even our ego's enemyes) follows.
There's no proof agaynst Love.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Acausal (I) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:06 am

one other trick... i like to think of it all as a challenge. i find that if you think about it positively, it gradually becomes a positive journey. but i'm a perfectionist and i can channel that aspect of myself into different facets of life, so the idea of a challenge that i can win helps me a ton.


So true. Challenge reynforces the truth agaynst the part of us (the ego) that fears the truth, and styfles the source of the false fear. N'a posytyve way, the challenge can 'tself be seen as an act of tough love; the enemy becomes a fryend/companyon, and's thus not feared anymore. Love's the most amazyng thyng -- real love.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Persona X » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:09 am

it is up to us to value ourselves and others
otherwise life is meaningless
we add the meaning with our choices
Each man in his time plays many parts.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Casper » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:18 pm

It's interesting that the OP noted that Scientology is anti-psychiatry. Given that the only real difference between psychiatry and psychology, from a patient's standpoint, is the ability to prescribe medicine, Scientology is a massive user of psychology. Just look at how ex-Scientologists are shunned, or how current members are constantly pressured to become more involved, both physically and financially. Scientology uses so much psychology, they should be donating an annual award to the APA!

As to whether we should sit back and let God do his* thing, why? Assuming that the Judeo-Christian concept of God is correct, God gave us a mind. Why on Earth should we sit back on our lazy butts and say "God'll take care of us", rather than fixing the problems ourselves? And who's to say that psychiatry/psychology isn't God's way of taking care of us? Miracles don't always have to have shining lights and supernatural singers accompanying them; sometimes it's a balding, overweight guy sitting in a comfy chair, asking us about our latest violent outburst.


*I only use the masculine because it's shorter than typing all possibilities.

imaduck wrote:but i am god :lol:

um, my own one anyway!

I tried being god, but I had to give it up. I just can't get up early on Sunday, not even to worship myself!
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Brumble » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:43 pm

God is the answer to all your problems
    If I get a headach I take medication, I don't expect God to take it away. It's like being thirsty and a glass of water is in front of me but I ask God to quinch my thirst, it ain't going to happen, no matter how much I cry for water from God it just won't happen. People die all the time because they are denighed treatment due to some one else wanting to test there faith in God, that's just plain crewl. If God is up there do um a big favor and start useing your brain, who knows you might have some mental health issues just like the rest of us, if you do i'm sorry and hope you learn to accept some help and quit being in denial. I would help some one when there hurting, not stand over them and expect God to do it for me, I may be half here at times but I do care about others enough to get protective.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby pheonixrise » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:45 am

As to whether we should sit back and let God do his* thing, why? Assuming that the Judeo-Christian concept of God is correct, God gave us a mind. Why on Earth should we sit back on our lazy butts and say "God'll take care of us", rather than fixing the problems ourselves? And who's to say that psychiatry/psychology isn't God's way of taking care of us? Miracles don't always have to have shining lights and supernatural singers accompanying them; sometimes it's a balding, overweight guy sitting in a comfy chair, asking us about our latest violent outburst.


*I only use the masculine because it's shorter than typing all possibilities.


Agree with this. For me, praying is part of my own treatment. But I'm not going to sit back and say "God, you do all the work while I do nothing". Christian or not, expecting anyone else to make you better without you doing a thing is not realistic.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby bulimba » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:34 am

Simon Attwood wrote:I was reading with interest right up till I reached this point ...

buddhaneo@ wrote:Now for psychiatry. Psychiatry is just an evil money making scheme designed to keep people dependent on THE SYSTEM. It has links with Al Qeada and is a terrorist organisation.


and then I went "Pahhh!!!" and gave up reading any further.

I agree with you...Psychiatry is just an evil money...! It became a business and that's it..

-- Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:37 am --

I personally think that is not a religion who can change your point of you or helps you to keep going and cheers you up. It all depends on how much you love your life and the people that are around you. It is not a priest who tells you funny stories that an make your life better..it depends on you and how big is your desire to survive in this jungle and smile...
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