God is the answer to all your problems

by **marycarterpaint** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:20 pm

Tungsten wrote:Ok, I am going to wait here.

ok, i'll contact you on your communicator when the relevant answers are available.

ChosenOne wrote:Our knowledge increases because of science, not because of religion. I'm aware that some scientists believe one or more gods exist. But science doesn't show that one or more gods exist. And if those particular scientists who are theists can keep their superstitions from interfering in their practice of science, then that's great. When they can't, then their work suffers and it can't withstand skeptical inquiry. In other words, bad science.

Ancient cultures, like the Mesopotamians, the Sumerians, and the Egyptians, made great advancements in fields like math, astronomy, architecture, metallurgy, etc. They made these advances, however, not *because* of their belief in whatever their respective gods were, but *in spite* of them.

Newton, who revolutionized humanity's understanding of mechanics, was a Christian theologian. He believed in God. He also believed in alchemy.

Now, what was his contribution to mankind, again? His work in physics, or his work in mythology?

Yawn. You really cannot grasp simple concepts. This is a mental illness forum, not a science forum. Though the assertion 'God is the answer to all your problems' is absurd and most certainly open to debate, it would be equally absurd to deny that the belief in God cannot be beneficial to some. Science has little to do with it, frankly.

ChosenOne wrote:I also detest the pride of and advocacy of ignorance. The Universe is not potentially infinite. It has a finite bound defined by its total mass and gravity.

Wow. And you're accusing me of ignorance?

ChosenOne wrote:Individual, private belief is fine.

Good, we're in agreement! You'll stop beating the same ol' drum then, I take it?

ChosenOne wrote:I would be more interested in seeing a list of books you have read, written by actual historians, as opposed to something you read from some half-assed web site

A deaf and blind three year old could tell you that Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists, for starters. But I probably just read that on some half-assed website...

ChosenOne wrote:Good luck with your journey

You're a lovely piece of work.

I'm done with this thread.

Believe, don't believe, I couldn't care less. Just treat others with respect.

by **marycarterpaint** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:17 pm

Quinta wrote:Believe, don't believe, I couldn't care less. Just treat others with respect.

thanks for the suggestion, and i believe i will.

by **BradleyWin** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:33 pm

Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.

by **betty2011** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:18 pm

i dont have problems that a god would be concerned with.

by **VinnyFromGermany** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:24 pm

I never blame myself when I'm not hitting. I just blame the bat and if it keeps up, I change bats. After all, if I know it isn't my fault that I'm not hitting, how can I get mad at myself?

by **marycarterpaint** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:12 pm

VinnyFromGermany wrote:I never blame myself when I'm not hitting. I just blame the bat and if it keeps up, I change bats.

i would blame physics. then i would blame god for creating physics.

VinnyFromGermany wrote: After all, if I know it isn't my fault that I'm not hitting, how can I get mad at myself?

even if its gods fault, i dont get mad at him. he's such a lovable rascal, and i like his jokes!

by **agirlbyanyothername** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:59 pm

Yawn. You really cannot grasp simple concepts. This is a mental illness forum, not a science forum. Though the assertion 'God is the answer to all your problems' is absurd and most certainly open to debate, it would be equally absurd to deny that the belief in God cannot be beneficial to some. Science has little to do with it, frankly.

Regardless what kind of forum this is, people do discuss issues outside those parameters. However, I would argue that science has quite a lot to do with it. Science plays a vital role in what kind of treatment is available to us, what kind of medication we may take, what kind of therapy we may be given, etc. Do you think the many antidepressants and anti-psychotics that so many of us rely on did not come from science?

A deaf and blind three year old could tell you that Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists, for starters. But I probably just read that on some half-assed website...

What is this suppose to prove? That all atheists are communists? That atheists are bad people? Hitler was a religious man and the Catholic church is swarming with pedophile priests. People have done terrible things in the name of religion. We can name names all day. These examples do not prove anything about Christians, Catholics or Atheists.

by **dividedtruth89** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:04 pm

Well...there are too many posts on here to really respond in a manner that keeps everything cohesive. That being said, I will say I am a Christian with a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and in therapy(with a therapist who as far as I know does not share my beliefs, but respects them), and have taken psychiatric medication in the past(though not on it now). My ex-boyfriend believed hallucinations were demons. I grew up in a family that said that depression was a demon that dug its claws into your shoulder, same with any other "sinful" emotions. All hogwash.

God created the body, but stuff goes wrong with it sometimes. So we go to the doctor, get medicine, insulin, physical therapy to become stronger, what have you. God also created the brain, moods and emotions. Sometimes stuff goes wrong with those so...I don't see why it would be bad to see a doctor for it/go to therapy/get medicine for it.

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