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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Quinta » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:47 am

agirlbyanyothername wrote:Regardless what kind of forum this is, people do discuss issues outside those parameters. However, I would argue that science has quite a lot to do with it. Science plays a vital role in what kind of treatment is available to us, what kind of medication we may take, what kind of therapy we may be given, etc. Do you think the many antidepressants and anti-psychotics that so many of us rely on did not come from science?


Science has an awful lot to do with mental illness in terms of both cause and treatment and most definitely has a place on this forum. However, science has little to do with whether or not belief in God can be beneficial to at least some people, which was what my comment was in relation to.

agirlbyanyothername wrote:What is this suppose to prove? That all atheists are communists? That atheists are bad people? Hitler was a religious man and the Catholic church is swarming with pedophile priests. People have done terrible things in the name of religion. We can name names all day. These examples do not prove anything about Christians, Catholics or Atheists.


Refer to previous posts:

ChosenOne wrote:let's just back track 80 years or so, when it was "popular" for European Catholics to support the Nazis as it was "God's word" that Jews were evil. In the 1930's it was alright for Catholics to discriminate against Jews, and in 2011 it is alright for Catholics to discriminate against Gays.


Quinta wrote:Would you like me to list all the genocidal maniac atheists of the 20th century? I never once claimed religion wasn't responsible for many heinous acts


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Quinta wrote:Would you like me to list all the genocidal maniac atheists of the 20th century?


I would be more interested in seeing a list of books you have read, written by actual historians, as opposed to something you read from some half-assed web site :wink:


ChosenOne believes that genocidal maniac atheists exist only within the realms of disreputable Internet sites, hence my 'naming names'. I don't for a second believe that atheists are inherently bad people. As stated previously, I am an atheist. People do horrible things, whether atheist or theist.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby MartianRobotGirl » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:43 am

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agirlbyanyothername wrote:
Yawn. You really cannot grasp simple concepts. This is a mental illness forum, not a science forum. Though the assertion 'God is the answer to all your problems' is absurd and most certainly open to debate, it would be equally absurd to deny that the belief in God cannot be beneficial to some. Science has little to do with it, frankly.


Regardless what kind of forum this is, people do discuss issues outside those parameters. However, I would argue that science has quite a lot to do with it. Science plays a vital role in what kind of treatment is available to us, what kind of medication we may take, what kind of therapy we may be given, etc. Do you think the many antidepressants and anti-psychotics that so many of us rely on did not come from science?


A deaf and blind three year old could tell you that Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists, for starters. But I probably just read that on some half-assed website...


What is this suppose to prove? That all atheists are communists? That atheists are bad people? Hitler was a religious man and the Catholic church is swarming with pedophile priests. People have done terrible things in the name of religion. We can name names all day. These examples do not prove anything about Christians, Catholics or Atheists.



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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby bluedragon1200 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:22 pm

If being with God mean your healthy, then all Christians or whatever faith should never have an illness, mental or physical. Then what about Job? God praised Job for being a good follower, and the devil plagued him with boils and killing his family and his farm.
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Black Widow » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:36 pm

bluedragon1200 wrote:If being with God mean your healthy, then all Christians or whatever faith should never have an illness, mental or physical. Then what about Job? God praised Job for being a good follower, and the devil plagued him with boils and killing his family and his farm.


That pretty much settles it. :D
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby marycarterpaint » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:01 am

Black Widow wrote:That pretty much settles it. :D

best to avoid being the subject of a wager between god and the devil. check. :twisted:
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Black Widow » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:09 am

marycarterpaint wrote:
Black Widow wrote:That pretty much settles it. :D

best to avoid being the subject of a wager between god and the devil. check. :twisted:


Or just choose your friends and wife carefully. :)
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby OMNICELL » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:43 am

OK. Im not sure of the forum rules. what can I say here. what cant I say here. Am I suppose to help here or what..

First, this is a joke. Right..

Mental health, is just that Mental health. If ones brain is not working right, they cant function. If they cant function they will kill themselves. Why, Lack of food, lack of friends, lack of hope, lack of life. Lack of society and family. The list goes on and on and on,, They cant function...

This means nothing to someone until they loose someone they love. Someone that is gone forever and wont be coming back. That is when they wake up to mental health realities..
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This simply has to be joke... I don't even know why I need to answer here. Im not sure ..

First, You've never met anyone like me. Im on my knees to God all day long. Thats atleast 30 times a day , bowing to God.

I have to do this or I die. I have no other way to keep me together. My relationship with God is real. He is my iron lung. He keeps me alive.
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God knows all about mental illness. He knows that this place called earth is all mental illness, Who do you think crucified him. All the monkeys in monkey land.. Why did he not get mad. he knew they were all monkeys by the time they grew up.. The only thing that was left of their brains after living in civilization was to ask for a banana.. Thats as good as they got.
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God has compassion on his people. He loves everyone, he created everyone. Each person is the son or daughter that he created. He does not want them hurt.. He dies when they want to die because of mental illness. He wants them on meds or anything else that can help them to get through this life.
He is their in the ER with them. He is their in the hospitals with them. He is their before, when they are at home alone and hungry and confused and want to die. He is with them holding them when they take their life. And he cries when they have to die from being butchered and tortured in so many unmerciful ways in modern society. All heaven cries. They know this pain. Those angles in heaven have seen this happen to Gods sons and daughters before. God knows the condition of man. he knows ....

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This thread is to much.

I think this thread is despicable.. I don't believe this. I think this is a lie... Or the intent is a joke of some-kind.. I wont keep answering to this thread..
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby marycarterpaint » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:08 pm

OMNICELL wrote:First, You've never met anyone like me. Im on my knees to God all day long. Thats atleast 30 times a day , bowing to God.

i feel sure he appreciates the gesture.

OMNICELL wrote:I wont keep answering to this thread..

you will be missed. never surrender. :D
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby Arbie Wun » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:22 am

here is something for people to consider... this forum is entitled God is the answer to all your problems.

I would like people to now consider this possibility! How can God be the answer, when for some people he is the defining factor behind a lot of problems suffered?
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Re: God is the answer to all your problems

Postby ChosenOne » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:28 pm

One is told a god exists. One repeats that, and the other "god believing" behaviors one learns from the tradition. Those behaviors are reinforced, tie in some Pavlovian conditioning for emotional cues, and you have a religious believer of any make or model you so choose.

So who made god? Using your logic, that means something that complex needs an even more complex creator. And that creators creator must be even more complex. And so on and so on. Where are you trying to go with this? What a horrible argument for your superstition :mrgreen:
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