Is Psych Forums Unfairly biased?

I'm so incredibly ANGRY that you put Sean in this place. The audacity of what transpired between you and he. You set out to hurt Sean. Congrats. It appears you did a bang-up job.

I've tried to understand you...tried to be a friend and learn so I could better understand and support. I feel like you really let me down when you hurt my friend the way you did. I cannot forgive that.

I give up. I don't understand you or your motives here. I'm sorry you are dealing w/ all you are. You have a right to your opinions, I don't dispute that. Why can't you do that? I don't fully understand but I always tell you I respect your right to your opinions. But when anyone fails to understand where your coming from or flat out disagree.....you can't fight fair. You lash out. You take it personally and you come back attacking hard. You know how to strike where it hurts and you do that.

I hope you and posters like you realize what it's costing you. But I guess when you lose this site....that's ok. You'll just move on to the next one and to hell w/ what it's come to mean for others.

I won't speak on Sean's original point in this thread because I was asked to stay out of it. But I really could not stand by and say nothing while you hurt someone I have come to care for as my friend.

*is totally agreeing with angel*

Agree with Angel as well.

Shrink R,

I'm sorry if my words sound harsh in my other post in this thread. You have the right to have your own opinion...so does everyone. But you go about stating your in ways that hurt other people.

When I first came to this site a lot of days would go by and hardly a soul came here. But I believed and still do believe that the site has great potential.

I know of many people who have been greatly helped by this site. Some of them have grown to be off-line friends and we talk on the phone every now and then.

But I get offended when you treat Sean the way you do. I consider him a friend. I have a lot of respect for Sean for keeping this site going. Without him this site would not be in existance.

So...I guess I retract my words of wanting you to leave the site...but can you please find it in your heart to show some compassion and kindness?

Kathy

I certainly threw the cat amongst the pigeons with the "no chemical imbalances" thread. Wow, what a reaction!

The culture of psych forums is pro psych, pro drugs and I don't expect any support from anyone here regarding my views.

Well, I'm off to fight psychopharmacology in the real world now. Thank you all for your comments over the past 12 months or so, I now know what sort of debates (ha ha) to expect in the future. Its given me great deal of confidence to know the advocates of psychopharmacology haven't got a leg to stand on.

Please note, I wont come back here, I have no need to. BYE

Ok....I'll throw this out to whomever. It's my experience that when people say they won't be back in a post...they can't help but come back and see what sort of response it gets them....so I'll throw this out for Shrink if he comes back....but more so...for others here in general

I'm not saying if this site is or isn't "pro this or that"...
to me Psych Forums brings a good mix of people...some are ok w/ and have had great experience w/ psycologists (counseling in general)....others have not had good experiences and are not for it as a way of getting better or dealing w/ their illness....others are like me....I've had some great counselors...I've also had some that are $#%^!...but for me counseling works and I'll always suggest it to people in need of help. I don't think it's the only answer though....but......

ok...so lets say for argument sake that Psych Forums is 100% pro meds...pro ...well I call it pro counseling....others I guess call it pro or anti-psych?...anyway....so what if this site is just that? Is that SO wrong? What can't those of us who have had positive experiences w/ meds or counseling feel like we have a safe place to come and post? Why can't we be the ones upset w/ someone coming here and trying to convince us to jump on the "abolish all forms of counseling" bandwagon...or excuse me....as been clarified a few times by certain posters....the "ban all forms of FORCED treatment" bandwagon...I don't agree w/ the idea of FORCED treatment...but it seems like anytime those of us that try to point that out when we post on this topic...well that's all ignored....the argument gets pushed back in our face...we try to say...look...we agree that FORCED treatment is wrong...but we don't want to see ALL forms of counseling or meds done away w/...we try to talk about how it's benefited us....that's thrown back in our face and although we say where we are coming from...the positive experiences we offer up are rarely touched upon...the argument goes right back into this "forced treatment" topic. Well. Ok. I get that. I don't think anyone has disputed that. We just try to counter w/ ...ok....we agree w/ you on that point...but there are other points to consider in our opinion...and nope...that's all ignored and jumped right back to the whole "FORCED" issue.

I'm having a hard time linking thoughts together and jumping all over the place. I hope this winds up making sense by the time you hit the end.


I think there are those who want a place to come and post about their negative experiences and talk about why they feel certain things should be banned or changed drastically at the very least. Well.....you came here.....you saw what this site was about...and you don't seem to like it....so why do you stay and continue to argue and often times...rant and rave? Why can't you see this site as one that doesn't fit your needs and move on to something else? Why try and destroy what feels like such a positive environment for so many others? Again....I can't speak for the overall site if it's pro this or that and pro it 100%....I only know my experiences on the board and often times it's pretty limited. But as I said earlier....lets just say that by chance it is just what Shrink accused....SO FREAKEN WHAT? I don't understand why that is so wrong. So accept that it's this way and leave it for those of us that it works for. I've done searches and checked out numerous sites in the last couple of years. I've posted on sites that work for me and those that have an environment that I don't feel fits how I want to post and whom I want to post w/.....I don't trash the site....I move on. Why is that too much to ask in this case? I don't understand when people log on and trash Psych Forums....ok...I can understand someone who drops by...decides they hate the site and posts their remarks...but what I don't get is when someone who does that keeps coming back again and again. I GET THAT IT FREAKEN DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU BUT GOD DAMM IT ALL...THIS PLACE WORKS FOR ME. You demand respect for yourself....WHY IS IT SO ###$ OUT OF PLACE FOR ME TO ASK THE SAME CONSIDERATION IN RETURN? Because believe me....I feel we don't get respect here if we dare disagree w/ certain posters. Oh we damm well better speak all nicey nice to you and put your ass on a pedestal...but dare we speak out in any way that doesn't agree w/ your side or kiss your ass....that just further sets you off. Cna't ever agree to disagree and move on. Nope. Guess that would take all the fun out?

although I'm sure it will leave cause for more argument.... I believe some come seeking to argue and fight and knowing exactly what environment you need to post in to get that. If you go to sites that support your cause....you can't engage in the rantings and the fighting and the hurt ....I think there are some that have visited this site that feed on it. And Shrink....just so you know....I'm not posting this directly to you...I'm posting it to those that have been on our site and seem to be much like you. No one feels you are the only one that has acted in such manner. So although my post is worded a certain way...I'm not calling just you out on this. I'm trying to talk in general...but yes, no doubt, I feel some of this very much applies to how you post.

And it sucks. Shrink, I wanted so much to try and understand you and what you go through. You've said your peace so many times and now I wanted to take some time and speak mine. I've given you respect...or so I felt I have...and i hope you will grant me that at least this one time here.

If you truly leave the site, then I wish you well. And only that. I hope life treats you well.

Last post about this, and likely the last post you'll see from me in some time. My role as administrator still holds and I'm not giving up on this site, but I am giving up on many of the people on the site as a result of several run-ins I've had recently.

We were hacked by some prick at the end of March and then I open a forum to try and offer people like shrink resistant a place to discuss things in a civil manner and I get attacked by people on both sides of the issue.

Shrink called me a liar on more than one occassion, but when pressed to show me where I lied all I received was the following: "###$ OFF".

He lacks any real argument so he has to resort to whining and twisting the words of others while claiming they are twisting his own words.

These forums aren't worth my time and involvement anymore because I have become sick and tired of the emails telling me I'm an evil drug pusher and all I'm out to do is make money off the suffering of others.

To anyone who feels this way... LEAVE THE SITE.

*Agrees with Angels post*

*Applauds Sean's post*

Kathy

I applaud you as well Sean. Remember it's just a select few that have set out to hurt you. The numbers of those in support of you and that stand behind you are MUCH larger. And those are the ones that count here.

Well done Sean.