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Re: lab rats

Postby strooped » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:34 am

Sorry, I'm new to forums and screwed up the post.

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Re: lab rats

Postby strooped » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:13 am

You're probably right about their being a lack of manpower for a prison society, although I wouldn't be surprised if certain people were working on a daily basis to push society towards that goal. I also don't know enough about the level of intrusion into peoples lives by various government agencies and even private companies nowadays to comment on whether we live in anything like a police state.

Although I know nothing about medication I'm fairly sure that antipsychotics could have an extremely detrimental affect on the patient taking them and luckily I have not been prescribed any or forced to take any.

I recently had an experience with some psychiatrists and although they seem like decent people, I got the impression that they where pursuing a predetermined agenda, regardless of the patients wishes, beliefs or mental state and this part is pure speculation but it may well have been that their course of action was being influenced by something other then their psychiatric training.

I like your sentiment about fighting the good fight. I'll keep trying to do that to the best of my abilities.

Thank you for taking the time to post.
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Re: lab rats

Postby TDQ » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:58 pm

How can so many "mentally Ill" share the same "delusions" "perceptions" etc etc???

Think about it have you met a "mental patient " and thought wow you are really crazy!!???

I bet the best therapy you ever receive is from these "mentalists"???

Do you really think this is all that exists "life on earth"???

No you don't because you have confirmation in your mind, don't let your "shrink" tell you that your delusional and mentally I'll.

Don't be fooled, once you are put on these horror drugs you really will be chemically unbalanced!!

Too many sheep thinking they are wolves in society.... The media is so manipulative, everything is so contrived and the powers that be want to shut us up!!

I've learnt to tell them nothing, if they ask are you hearing voices I say of course your talking I'm not deaf!!!

They are very clever and almost convinced me I was crazy.

Think about it this earth is way over populated, course they are trying to kill us off and start a new elite race.

Aids... Man made fact

Swine flu... Man made fact

Antipsychotics = early grave fact

If they worked then why does "psychosis" still exist??

I know it's scary, but the truth is you are special!! Tuned in to spirit world, there are different realms, there is nothing to be frightened of trust me, accept your gift and know you are blessed!!

How can someone who is considered "mentally I'll" be forced to take these meds?? There is no proof that mental illness exists.

Someone has cancer that's a fact, if they refuse treatment they aren't forced to??... Why??? Because they want you dead.

My advice stay well clear of antipsychotic meds.. Also keep what you know to yourself or share with people who are also enlightened ;)
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Re: lab rats

Postby strooped » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:40 pm

Hi TDQ and thank you for posting on here again.

I should probably have taken your advice when you said to keep what I know to myself, unfortunately I'm a moron and I'm trying to make a website documenting the coincidences that have turned negative and plagued my life after spending my sisters wedding night on drugs and with a beautiful woman. It's something I've been calling the Coincidental Conspiracy Con and since I started making it the coincidences have increased considerably.

Anyone who's thought about trying to do something similar but not found anyone else willing to work with them is more than welcome to join me on what may be the stupidest endeavour ever undertaken by man. Private message me or post if you want to help out but do bear in mind that there's no privacy. I do suspect that forums such as these are monitored by a wide range of government agencies, NGOs and it's also possible that the forum itself is yet another elaborate troll attempt, contacting me may well flag you up on some computer system somewhere. If that doesn't bother you please contact me.

TDQ, the problem I've discovered is that anyone who seems vaguely willing to discuss this sort of thing seriously seems to be involved in perpetuating what appears to be a system of psychological enslavement. I don't know whether it's through choice, fear or whether communications are monitored between people and, like me, they experience coincidences too and these "coincidences" start increasing in their lives suggesting that perhaps they should not engage with me.

"The media is so manipulative, everything is so contrived and the powers that be want to shut us up!!"


I couldn't agree with you more here TDQ. Mainstream media does seem to be used as a tool for social and psychological manipulation. However, in my attempt to find out what this is about I have approached the alternative press, people who are willing to openly discuss government conspiracies and cover ups, secret societies, gang stalking and the New World Order but when I talk to them about my experiences they seem to fall in line with every other source of information on this subject and yet again those coincidences begin.

I haven't tweeted for a while but if anyone wants to have a laugh visit http://www.twitter.com/propafool just be sure to ignore the people I'm following. The website isn't in a presentable state yet but I'll keep working to get it up and running so that people can have a look and see if anything I'm going through is similar to what they have been through.

Also, anyone willing to help would be appreciated. In this regard I may be deluded but I'm trying to encourage the creation of a group called Stop the PsYchological Conspiracy Against Society or SPYCAS, feedback on the name would be appreciated to.

PS - Anyone not willing to contribute but who can help with search engine optimisation and get my website up google rankings is welcome.
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Re: lab rats

Postby TDQ » Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:30 am

You are playing with fire! Be careful or you will be burnt ;)

The wise old owl who sat in the tree, the more he listened the more he could see.

Believe half of what you see, half of what you hear and you're half way to finding the truth!

The truth is you can search all your life, but let me ask you what are you trying to find?

The way I see it is this, what can you really do about any of it anyway? There will always be conspiracies, theories, etc.

To live and love is the best we can achieve here. Love is all you need. Most people merely exist, live as you will die tomorrow and dream as you will live forever.

We all know the powers that be have plans, yet don't waste your days worrying about them, what will be will be.

So long as you can live with yourself you will be alright!

If you can't repent and you can be forgiven ;)

On a lighter note, I had the chance to win VIP tickets to a Justin Bieber concert, all I had to do was answer a maths question.. 2+2 was the question.... I quickly answered 4get it!!

^^^^^^a joke with symbolism^^^^^^

You will never solve life's equation it's not as simple as 2+2!

Just do what makes you happy and find inner peace then I feel you will find the equation at least becomes easier.
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Re: lab rats

Postby take_too2 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:55 am

strooped wrote:...like me, they experience coincidences too and these "coincidences" start increasing in their lives suggesting that perhaps they should not engage with me.


In spiritual growth circles, these 'coincidences' are termed synchronicities and they do start to increase as one becomes more awake or aware, as one starts to raise their own body frequency. As the veil of illusion, woven over our eyes by our surrounding culture, starts to dissolve, we just see more clearly, or rather, we see more, feel more, know more. Its called expanding consciousness, its evolution, its inevitable. Life, including the human race is still evolving.

Its not that these 'coincidences' increase in frequency, its that we are now more open and aware and so we notice more things which were previously beyond our perception.

Sorry to go off topic a bit, but I just wanted to comment on that part of what you wrote :)
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”

~ J. Krishnamurti
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Re: lab rats

Postby Ian Reynir » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:56 pm

I agree that antipsychotics have very seroius "unintended" effects. But I don't agree that all bipolar people are ok without some immediate meds to treat crisis situations. Our medical system doesn't know how to deal with the true complexity of bipolar disorder. People have very different reasons for having a crisis situation, and patients always have some life or situational problems. I feel tha the community doesn't have or want to spend the time/energy to truly re-habilitate people. Instead, they simply prescribe the meds and mask the symptoms. I guess that works, but some of us are bold enough to do it without the meds. Unfortunately this is not easy.

I was feeling psychotic when starting or stopping meds. Transitions were tough for me. Once I figured out how to fix my life or situational problems, then I was able to slowly transition. I learned from one time I was hospitalized after stopping cold-turkey. That was a bad idea! I hadn't fixed up my life first.

I wasn't able to really get systematic about my approach until I wrote the first draft of what became my book on alternative treatment to bipopolar disorder. I figured out that the "coping" strategies weren't good enough for me. I'd have to stay on meds if all i did was cope. That was not fun for the 4 years that I tried doing it.
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Re: lab rats

Postby strooped » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:34 pm

Thank you both for replying to me.

I like the jokes TDQ. I know I'm playing with fire but it seems be a particularly malevolent fire that has a very capable brain and is deliberately screwing with my life, even more so know I'm confronting it.

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Unfortunately I'm not a wise old owl, if you read my post in that board you'll probably realise how stupid I must be for pursuing this. I'm after the truth, the actual truth and all of it.

You may well be right, I might never be able to do anything about it but the only way I'll know what I can do is to know everything about it.

I can't agree with you more about love is all we need. For me though, these deliberately engineered coincidences are interfering with that and if that is someone elses' plan then I'll do my best to document what they're doing in the hope that someone clearly more intelligent then me is able to help me solve this.

Fortunately I'm a moron and willing to accept the consequences of what may happen if someone helps me expose what may be a conspiracy.

Hi Take Too,

I've heard the term synchronicity before, but it again seems to be an attempt to make "we're screwing with your lives" sound more acceptable.

I appreciate your understanding of what we're talking about but I disagree, probably because I'm an ignorant fool. Obviously I agree with you that life and human consciousness, both collectively and individualy, is constantly evolving. However, if this synchronicity or the deliberate engineering of coincidence to manipulate people and society is an attempt to force the collective evolution of mankind then a) i don't think it's doing a very good job b) think it's wrong and c) think it's another way of saying "we're screwing with your lives".

I am a moron though so I'm probably wrong.

Also, I doubt my awareness has increased all that much in the past three weeks, I've spent most of it fixing my computer and staring at stylesheets and html. It does seem however that my family are working extra hard to generate these coincidences and this increase coincides with me starting to document their behavior and what's going on in my life.

Thank you both for replying to me, hopefully people with similar experiences to me will find the courage to stand up against it. If of course there is more going on then most people are aware of.

Also Take Too, you're signature seems to conflict with something TDQ said:

We all know the powers that be have plans, yet don't waste your days worrying about them, what will be will be.

So long as you can live with yourself you will be alright!


I might be wrong but TDQ seems to be suggesting that I just get on with my life, love people and live as freely as I dare. Your quote Take Too would suggest to me that adapting to life and existing freely would essentially mean I'm sick. Is that understanding wrong?

Sorry if my stupidity is skewing my understanding of what you two are saying.
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Re: lab rats

Postby TDQ » Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:10 pm

No that is exactly what I was trying to say, I'm also saying be careful I'm always here for input and will always offer advice, and if you truly believe that this is your soul purpose right now who am I to tell you not to. Just be careful and take care of yourself.
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Re: lab rats

Postby take_too2 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:12 pm

strooped wrote:
Also Take Too, you're signature seems to conflict with something TDQ said:

We all know the powers that be have plans, yet don't waste your days worrying about them, what will be will be.

So long as you can live with yourself you will be alright!


I might be wrong but TDQ seems to be suggesting that I just get on with my life, love people and live as freely as I dare. Your quote Take Too would suggest to me that adapting to life and existing freely would essentially mean I'm sick. Is that understanding wrong?

Sorry if my stupidity is skewing my understanding of what you two are saying.


I see your point, there might be a contradiction there, I'm not sure. Probably more of a misunderstanding.

From my understanding, if you adapt yourself to fit in with society, then you are changing yourself, becoming something which isn't your true nature. I think the trick is to adjust our thinking and behaviors so that we can live in a balanced way in tune with our own values as much as possible, while still being able to experience harmony in our existence.

Not so much adapting to the sickness of society, but changing the way we understand the nature of life and working with its flow. The very nature of society is that it restricts freedom in order to provide security. The truth is, if we are living in a society we are not free and our freedoms seem to be getting more and more restricted all the time, but we are free to believe whatever we want. We are free to choose between living from love or from fear.

Most of the sickness of our society is bred from fear. Fear is the main tool of the manipulators, we can buy into it and be controlled by it (adjust ourselves accordingly), or we can live by our original nature of love, as much as is practical or sensible.

Just because you can't change something, doesn't mean you have to go along with it or like it, but that also doesn't mean you have to fight it either.

Its possible to be 'in this world' but not 'of this world'.
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”

~ J. Krishnamurti
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