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Open discussion about the Anti-Psychiatry Movement and related topics. This includes the opposition to forced treatment and hospitalization as well as the belief that Psychiatric Medication does more harm than good. Please note that these topics are controversial and therefore this forum may offend some people. This is not the belief of Psych Forums or Get Mental Help and this forum was posted to offer a safe place to discuss these beliefs.

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Postby seanetal » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:16 pm

Hello all,

Hopefully this post will explain the reasoning behind the creation of our latest and most controversial forum. It will also explain the rules of this site and act as a first warning to those who might choose to violate those rules.

If you have any questions please direct them towards me.

The Rules
The rules here are simple, this is an open forum and we would like to keep it that way.

Watch Your Language Please. We understand the use of certain words, but please do not go overboard or we will need to start censoring those words.
Be Sensible. Don't post more personal information that you are willing to share with a stranger.
Be Respectful of Others. Please do not post hateful or insulting comments. No personal attacks will be allowed.
No Inappropriate Advertisements or Links. Products or sites relating to the topic of discussion are acceptable, anything else will be removed and the user warned or possibly banned.
Do Not SPAM the Forums. Post your topic to the appropriate forum, if it fits in more than one topic then select the most appropriate one.

Remember these boards are for everyone… those with mental illness, their friends, family, caregivers, students and mental health professionals.

Moderators and Administrators have the authority to warn or ban users who violate these rules.

I am aware this is a touchy subject and that people may get angry, but I won't allow that anger to be taken out on the Moderators or other members. If we see personal attacks, name calling, or other childish behavior then we will remove the post. If we see such behavior again, then we will ban the poster.

I believe that everything in life can be discussed by people in a mature and sensible way, please help prove me right.

About Anti-Psychiatry
The Anti-Psych Movement started out in the 1960s as it sounds - a movement against psychiatry which proposed the belief that psychiatric patients did not have a mental illness but were simply living a different lifestyle. The movement has shifted in the past 50 years however and it is that shifted definition which our forum is meant to show.

Most, if not all antipsychiatrists oppose inhumane treatment of mental patients (or even their status as "mental patients" in the first place), either through the damaging effects of long-term institutionalization or the use of specific interventions given without informed consent. Electroconvulsive therapy, or ECT, has been used to sedate and punish difficult psychiatric patients, rather than for therapeutic purposes, and even some psychiatrists oppose ECT based on studies of its safety and effectiveness. Others, such as Szasz and Breggin, contend that even accepted therapeutic practices remain instruments of social control. Punitive use of "treatment", including ECT, isolation, and restraint has diminished, but is still widely documented.

Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-psychiatry



Among the concerns covered by Anti-Psychiatry are:
    Over Diagnosis of Mental Illness
    Reliance on outdated and unproven treatment methods
    Reliance on medications we know little about
    Use of forced treatment including ECT, forced medication, forced confinement

While Pro Anorexia is an offshoot of Anti-Psychiatry, it is not going to be allowed on our site because it is harmful.

As you can tell I feel that many of the points in this movement are valid and valuable. I feel that many illnesses are overdiagnosed, including ADHD. I feel that many people are being medicated when they should receive therapy instead... especially children and teenagers. I feel that people should never be forced into a treatment or situation they do not want. [/list]
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Postby hav0k » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:56 pm

i can't say it enough. thank you sean. 8)
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Postby mia sexy genius » Sun May 08, 2005 12:55 am

While Pro Anorexia is an offshoot of Anti-Psychiatry, it is not going to be allowed on our site because it is harmful.


So Pro-Ana/Pro-Mia is a no-no...

How about Pro-delusional disorder?

Or Pro-somatic disorder?

Before you say "Get off my web page you evil thing", let me explain. I speed through my homework ten times faster when I'm in a delusional state. And no, I'm not just thinking that because I'm delusional at the time, if you don't believe me ask my math teacher! As for somatic disorder, one can use one's special powers to turn emotional stress into physical aches and pains, therefore freeing the mind from mental health ailments.

Anyway, I just thought it would be the right thing to ask before making any more of my "pro" posts.
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Postby seanetal » Sat May 14, 2005 1:30 am

Mia,

The reason that I take offense with the Pro-Ana movement is because it is dangerous. Whether or not someone defines it as an illness or a lifestyle it still destroys the life of the person because it gets out of control.

As you can probably tell I believe it to be an illness. Perhaps this makes me biased, I have no problem being biased if it keeps people from harming themselves.
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Postby mia sexy genius » Wed May 18, 2005 6:01 pm

Your answer has nothing to do with my question!

Are pro-delusional disorder and pro-somatic disorder allowed on this website or not?

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Postby Butterfly Faerie » Wed May 18, 2005 6:33 pm

Mia, I believe Sean did reply to your post.

Please do not be rude to the admin on the site.

No pro-ana, no pro-cutting etc etc.

Anything to do with pro-self harm, or pro "hurting others" are not acceptable.
You can post whatever you want. However if it is inapropriate the post will be removed.


Sean will not be responding to posts for the time being, he's going to be busy. However you are welcome to contact one of us mods to dicuss the proper rules of this forum.

Thank you.


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Postby seanetal » Thu May 19, 2005 2:58 am

Mia,

I did answer your question - the ONLY things we do not allow on this site are things that promote self harm. That includes ANYTHING that can be harmful such as Pro-Anorexia, Pro-Mutilation or Pro-Cutting, and the odd post we get every now and then that removing a body part can cure mental illness.

Being Pro Delusional Disorder is not harmful and therefore is allowed on the site.
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Postby stubborn-envelope » Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:44 am

but no doubt some delusions can lead to harmful behavior? (speaking from personal experience)
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Postby january » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:31 am

Exsisting can lead to harmful behavior. :idea:

This is a slipperly slope arguement. Anorexia's very nature is harmful. Starving yourself That's why the mod's can use their judgement. There are situations in which delusions are okay. There is never a situation in which it is okay to ritualistically starve yourself out of insecurity of your body.
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