Could Schizophrenia be a myth? See the evidence!

After recovering from OCD and becoming more spiritually evolved and insightful, I had a theory. Perhaps my soul or higher self wanted to evolve to a higher awareness level and when it was in the process of doing so, my physical brain had trouble adjusting to it, so it started misfiring and malfunctioning, which created those obsessions and behaviors. Perhaps that is the reason behind some mental illnesses.

The reason I postulate this is because I recently read some articles about patients who recover from Schizophrenia and become better than before. They become smarter and more successful in life. I thought that my case was a fluke or a mystery, but when I learned that this happened in other cases too, it made me wonder whether going through a mental illness was in some way a path to transcendence of some form. What do you all think? In case you want to read the articles on the websites I mentioned, they are at:

http://www.successfulschizophrenia.com

What do you think? Know any similar cases?

There is a lot of interesting evidence on that site that schizophrenia may be just a myth.

Mental illnesses are real.
Schizophrenia is real.
Not all diagnosis are correct.
Not all diagnosis are the same.
Not all prognosis are the same.
Not all results are the same.
Methods of recovery are not all the same.
Not everyone has the same success.
Not everyone has the same failures.
Your mileage may vary.
Anecdotes are anecdotes.
Meet somewhere in the middle of these.

If Schizophrenia is real, then where is there no neurological evidence for it? I mean they define it by behaviors only, which is very faulty.

See that site I linked above. It has a ton of articles and cases about this subject that will make you rethink it and shift your paradigm.

A lack of evidence doesn't make it not real.

If it is a myth, then what exactly is it that people are recovering from? If it is a myth then there is no need for recovery, because there would be no effects to recover from.

We might not understand it completely, so in some sense it is a label for a set of behaviors and symptoms, but the behaviors and symptoms are real. It is an actual condition, why and how it exactly happens is irrelevant as far as its existence is concerned. You may see it as a byproduct of transcendence, and I won't argue with that, but even that proves that it is not a myth - it only shows that you view it differently but you are still viewing the same thing that other people do.

gwilly wrote:Mental illnesses are real.
Schizophrenia is real.
Not all diagnosis are correct.
Not all diagnosis are the same.
Not all prognosis are the same.
Not all results are the same.
Methods of recovery are not all the same.
Not everyone has the same success.
Not everyone has the same failures.
Your mileage may vary.
Anecdotes are anecdotes.
Meet somewhere in the middle of these.

couldnt have said this better myself.

the website link you provided, while having some valid information in its links, looks like it was put together by a third grader. the appearance alone makes me question its validity. if it was meant to be taken seriously, the least they could have done is invested in a web designer. but i tend to be an elitist when it comes to using visuals to explain a concept.

as far as your "recovering" from OCD and becoming more spiritual and enlightened, i think you replaced one mental illness with another. our brain is way to complex to say that stress and confusion cause mental illness, but when you found god you were healed. what you are describing is a coping mechanism. for you it was spirituality and enlightenment. for others it may be counting sidewalk cracks, cutting, art, poetry, music, or whatever it is you do to deal with the fact that you have overwhelming issues.

You misunderstood my story. I didn't find God and recovered from OCD. I found a new paradigm and transcendence, or a higher perspective.

The symptoms of schizophrenia may be real. No one is arguing that. But schizophrenia is more of a judgment that a disease. And a closed minded judgment.

They say that schizophrenia is uncurable. So if anyone recovers from it, then they say they never had schizophrenia in the first place. It's a defense mechanism that rationalizes away facts and cases in order to defend a closed paradigm. See how it works?

Check out these videos about people who recovered from schizophrenia:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... overy&aq=f

themadness wrote:as far as your "recovering" from OCD and becoming more spiritual and enlightened, i think you replaced one mental illness with another. our brain is way to complex to say that stress and confusion cause mental illness, but when you found god you were healed. what you are describing is a coping mechanism. for you it was spirituality and enlightenment. for others it may be counting sidewalk cracks, cutting, art, poetry, music, or whatever it is you do to deal with the fact that you have overwhelming issues.

Spirituality is not a mental illness. It is our true nature. We are all spirit. The mind controlling establishment wants you to think otherwise, that you are just an organic brain who has one life, so that you will feel weak and powerless and try to acquire all the wealth you can and consume all you can in your life, thus giving your power over to them to feel secure. It's all a form of mass mind control.

Google "Michael Tsarion" and his videos on YouTube, as well as David Icke, Alex Jones, etc. They will explain it all to you in deep detail.

Btw, my spiritual transcendence was a RESULT of my recovery, not a coping mechanism. You got it backwards. After my recovery, I became smarter and a better writer and thinker than I ever was before.

You need to widen your paradigm that has been programmed.

Psychological disorders have pretty much existed since the beginning of time. Just because scientists don't have COMPLETE evidence for it doesn't mean that it's a myth. Spend some time around a group of schizophrenics and say that it's a myth. Hallucinations, Delusions, etc are a tad bit more than "a set of behaviours".

Also, here's some scientific findings on schizophrenia:
http://resources.atcmhmr.com/poc/view_d ... oc&id=8812

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/n ... zaban.html

http://www.hkjpsych.com/journal_file/9702_P14-18.pdf

http://www.indianjpsychiatry.org/articl ... ubramanian

A simple google search brings that up.

I suffer from psychotic symptoms with my bipolar disorder, so I can empathize with what schizophrenics go through (though not to the extent that they do), and I find it funny that people would say that it's a myth. Obviously you've never experienced debilitating hallucinations, or you've never been around someone with schizophrenia. I do believe that, depending on severity of the illness, some people can learn how to manage it. PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CURE AND MANAGE. Look at John Nash, for instance. He was able to manage his illness and lead a mostly normal life.

I look at my great aunt who has SEVERE paranoid schizophrenia. It's bad. She lives in Spain (where I'm from) and she believes she's still in the Spanish Civil War helping fugitive generals escape from the country. I'd say whatever if it wasn't for the fact that every few months she disappears for 2 weeks to help them escape. I don't know how to explain how she is apart from the fact that her brain no longer exists on this earth. Tell me it's a myth. Since she was in her 20's, she has tried every type of therapy available, every kind of medicine, and as treatment evolved she tried new treatment. She's now 87 and the only thing we've been able to do to give everyone relief is give her medication to help her physical behaviour, but her delusions and hallucinations, no matter how hard she fought against it in her younger years or how hard everyone around her tried...it didn't work and we lost her to her mind.

WWu777 wrote:

themadness wrote:as far as your "recovering" from OCD and becoming more spiritual and enlightened, i think you replaced one mental illness with another. our brain is way to complex to say that stress and confusion cause mental illness, but when you found god you were healed. what you are describing is a coping mechanism. for you it was spirituality and enlightenment. for others it may be counting sidewalk cracks, cutting, art, poetry, music, or whatever it is you do to deal with the fact that you have overwhelming issues.

Spirituality is not a mental illness. It is our true nature. We are all spirit. The mind controlling establishment wants you to think otherwise, that you are just an organic brain who has one life, so that you will feel weak and powerless and try to acquire all the wealth you can and consume all you can in your life, thus giving your power over to them to feel secure. It's all a form of mass mind control.

here we go with "the man holding us down". how is that any different from religion? they use weakness and human imperfection to subscribe to a certain doctrine. NLP and propaganda at its finest.

Google "Michael Tsarion" and his videos on YouTube, as well as David Icke, Alex Jones, etc. They will explain it all to you in deep detail.

big fan AJ. he tends alot of things we dont get in MSM. however, his ideals are just much propaganda as "the man" its just on the opposite end of the spectrum.

Btw, my spiritual transcendence was a RESULT of my recovery, not a coping mechanism. You got it backwards. After my recovery, I became smarter and a better writer and thinker than I ever was before.

You need to widen your paradigm that has been programmed.

well then, what exactly led to your recovery? if you have found the answer to curing mental illness then you should share it with the world. do you believe your disease magically vanished? are you no longer programmed? maybe your "recovery" is in a delusion in itself. widen your paradigm.

The idea:

WWu777 wrote:patients who recover from Schizophrenia

is contradicted by the idea:

WWu777 wrote:schizophrenia may be just a myth.

Which is it? If schizophrenia is a myth, then what are the patients recovering from?


Otherwise, schizophrenia is unfortunately a rather wide term that covers many different mental disorders. Paranoid schizophrenia is very different from disorganized schizophrenia for example. I heard that disorganized schizophrenia is degenerative and not really recoverable from, while paranoid schizophrenia can be "recovered" from.