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Re: how to survive a hospital stay

Postby manic666 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:47 pm

ifyou read my first post it dont slag the hospital that much as you are makeing out,The only thing i can see in the post is me saying the nurse,s were unreleiable at giveing meds at the set times,i had a bad experince that near on cost my life.anthat was down to staff, ie a psychiatrist,who got my treatment completley wrong.Who in this world stops 10 ativan addiction cold, an adds effexor ,plus no detox med for alchol withdrawl ,do to self medicating //the nurse,s saw my notes an did nothing.I would have die by there practice or my own hand had i not got out,,I have tried to sue the hospital an the shrink ,but no laywer will take on the NHS.After all your mental an in hospital.i still am an out patient an have a open apoinment,the shrink still works there but i dont see him ,i have confronted him with a print out how to detox benzo,s an he put it in his bag an laughed.Of course he is a one an so is my story, what a lot of people think is they go in hospital they sedate you for a couple of weeks an you come out. i am in fact trying to prepare the worst if it happens.Im not saying there all like mine,mine has a bad reputation for suicide deaths after discharge,and is under constant review. A small example, my room mates an friends were young heroin addicts with mental probs, the used to smoke heroin in the wrekky yard, an bring in vodka in water bottles,all under the careing whatchful eye of the so called security an staff.To smoke heroin you only have to roll it in a nomal cig like the other patients rolled there smokes.My wife came in to visit an said she had seen one of the lads scoring heroin in town on his day release.Mine is a case of nhs cost cutting an useing eastern block shrinks who have a hard time useing english never mind med treatment.There are good hospital of course this one is not. this is not america were you chose your shrink ,you get what you get , i told you if it had not been for my gp who overuled the hospital i would be dead ,i get good attention now at the hospital they no what happend ,they have been told enough times by various parties.BUT WHAT I DONT GET THE SHRINK STILL WORK,S THERE
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Re: how to survive a hospital stay

Postby benedictus57 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:04 pm

manic666 wrote:if you read my first post it dont slag the hospital that much as you are making out,The only thing i can see in the post is me saying the nurse,s were unreliable at giving meds at the set times,i had a bad experience that near on cost my life.and that was down to staff, ie a psychiatrist,who got my treatment completely wrong.Who in this world stops 10 ativan addiction cold, an adds effexor ,plus no detox med for alcohol withdrawal ,do to self medicating //the nurse,s saw my notes an did nothing.I would have die by there practice or my own hand had i not got out,,I have tried to sue the hospital an the shrink ,but no lawyer will take on the NHS.After all your mental an in hospital.i still am an out patient an have a open appointment,the shrink still works there but i dont see him ,i have confronted him with a print out how to detox benzo,s an he put it in his bag an laughed.Of course he is a one an so is my story, what a lot of people think is they go in hospital they sedate you for a couple of weeks an you come out. i am in fact trying to prepare the worst if it happens.Im not saying there all like mine,mine has a bad reputation for suicide deaths after discharge,and is under constant review. A small example, my room mates an friends were young heroin addicts with mental probs, the used to smoke heroin in the wreck yard, an bring in vodka in water bottles,all under the caring watchful eye of the so called security an staff.To smoke heroin you only have to roll it in a normal cig like the other patients rolled there smokes.My wife came in to visit an said she had seen one of the lads scoring heroin in town on his day release.Mine is a case of nhs cost cutting an using eastern block shrinks who have a hard time using english never mind med treatment.There are good hospital of course this one is not. this is not america were you chose your shrink ,you get what you get , i told you if it had not been for my gp who overruled the hospital i would be dead ,i get good attention now at the hospital they no what happend ,they have been told enough times by various parties.BUT WHAT I DONT GET THE SHRINK STILL WORK,S THERE


Hi there manic666;

Your first OP gave me a reminiscence recollection of every reason why abhor hospital stays due to bad experiences whether past suicidal tendencies eight years ago on three separate occasions to recent experiences that had absolutely no relation to my experiences eight years ago. See example: sexual-abuse-incest/topic54113.html

I have a hate for particular nurses and doctors who openly show disdain toward any hospital patient that is ill, mental or otherwise. Yeah! I know medical professionals are humans who make mistakes too.

Hospital Out-Patient, ERs and Acute and non-Acute areas surrounding As always have a large contingency of mental health patients on any given day of the week. Weekends are worse and so are Full Moons. I know; I used to work in a City hospital around an ER Out patient area doing security work keeping medical staff safe from unruly patients.

Big difference though when your a patient on the other side of the table. However; in all my time as a patient in the period of the last eight years, I was never once disrespectful towards anyone in the medical staff despite a number of them being rude and indignant towards me.

The absolute worst hell-hole in my experience of having been a patient numerous times is in the ER or Acute area.
Too damned much bias judgment between medical doctors, nurses, and mental health patients. Like a bloody elephant that never forgets, nurses and doctors never forget every mental health patient that has walked in on their turf. I've been pigeonholed, screwed, chewed and tattooed more times than I want to count. Quiet stays in a hospital feel like twilight-zones somewhere in between home and a ride at Disneyland. Is this exaggeration?
Nope! Too many Sargent-major nurses running the rouse. Sigh! Discharge Day...Ah! Freedom at last!

Peace
Chris
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Re: how to survive a hospital stay

Postby manic666 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:22 pm

i will reply to you buddy tommorow .
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Re: how to survive a hospital stay

Postby manic666 » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:51 pm

Right if your taken to a@e after an overdose , the nurse,s look at you like $#%^. They bang down you a pint of charcoal wheel you in the corridor an shut the door. In the morning a phychiatric nurse will come an have a talk to you an 9 times out of ten send you home to try again. This has not happened to me but i have witnessed it plenty of times. In a s ward where i was, a woman under sedation was raped on a side ward . I dont think she will ever recover, an it was blaimed on staff shortage in court. In england they nurses an docs wear casual cloths, is it to make you think your on ######6 holiday. The patient are cool they stick togeather an help each other out.Ihad a big massive nutball guy lift me out the walk in shower where i had been all day detoxing stipped naked for anyone to see, an put me in a dressing gown an make me coffee , why the ###$ couldent a nurse do that. I was cool with the lady patient,s an let them mother me , the consutant came once a week an the doc once a day. The first thing you get is a rack of blood tests to see if your bringing in something nasty,seeing that half are junkies god knows what you may get. There is blood about now an then when someone goes on one.I saw i guy i actually no, dive an get stuck in double plate glass window he has hepititis. but lets put it this way it open,s your eyes , i left worse than i went in but got help from my gp.
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Re: how to survive a hospital stay

Postby Onebravegirl » Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:40 pm

Manic, keep in mind that your post about hospitals may be seen by people who have never been to a hospital and really need help. I am sure you wouldn't want to scare anyone away from going to a hospital to be safer with themselves.
They may not all be Spas' but they do serve a valuable purpose in most cases.
AND changes are being made. We have one here In Toronto that will be the first of its kind in the world.
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Re: how to survive a hospital stay

Postby manic666 » Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:28 am

Its best to know what to expect in mental hospital.You are in for a massive culture shock, its a mental hospital . lots of people me included think your going into a nice bed have sedation drugs for a few weeks an just rest your mind. WWWWWWWWWWrong you hit with a zoo , with people who can an will upset you, there are bullies in the hospital like anywhere else, i would seek them out an ###$ them up if hurting people that are ill .Whether they themselves are ill or not. We in england dont have the luxory of your own room we sleep in a dorm with mabey 10 patients. with most no sleeping till 2 am so if you want an early night forget it.The staff sit at there big desk discussing the night before loverly night out, while one thinks isnt it time we gave out the meds , who has the key to the med cabinet?????????, as there already 30 minutes late an the patients are climbing the walls.hey were is Tim, i havent seen him for a few days, no because he is in the stock room with his ex box so nobody steals it.T hats real life on the mental ward. Another favorit , please nurse can i go to the superstore which is a 5 minute walk. Sure so off they go with no escort, straight to the wines an spirit,s pick up a litre bottle of whisky an down it in one, before the shop staff catch you an get security to take you back.i know an alki lady who jumped a bus to town an got smashed in 6 bars all wearing a nightdress an slippers.we used to get takeaways dilivered at 1am at the front lock up door an the gaurd opened the door so we could take the order.They did have a tendancy to allow day realeases to patients, but they didnt go home they went it to town to score an get hammered, some patient never came back ,why they o.d or even just did what they tried to do before they came in hospital. Now when the day realeases came back it would be mayhem with fights an tantrums . The nurses would say random blood tests for drugs , they would say we are alergict to blood test. so they could not blood test them till the got an order to do it. by that time they were clean.ONEBRAVE GIRL thats my english mental hospital now how do you feel you would have faired in that, You have to hear the bad with your good that is life in the raw
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Re: how to survive a hospital stay

Postby Onebravegirl » Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:38 pm

It is horrible that some places do not have the proper care available. Every hospital has its horror stories. Even the one I was in. It is not meant to be a vacation spot. All of that unpleasantness can do a sort of good though. In most cases it gives people a reality check of how sick they can become and can motivate them to do more towards their own health. Sort of a wake up call. Every hospital has its areas to improve, General Hospitals, Psych Wards, Nursing Homes,Detox centers, the list is endless.

Your thread tittle is how to survive a Hospital Stay, so here my advice;
It is very easy yo get distracted in a Psychiatric unit or a detox center. Where I was did both. When people are scared and not having access to their street drugs, believe me, you see DRAMA. Stay away from the drama.Keep your head down, talk to only a few of the quieter ones. Stay clear of the restless ones. Avoid conversations about how terrible your treatment is going, someone will always be willing to complain too and it just ends up making you more discouraged and frightened.
Be respectful to the staff, believe me they notice, they get it rarely.
Listen to your Doc and tell HIM/HER your issues with the ward. Go to the groups if they are available, even if you cannot talk, just listen.
Remember you are there because you need help to contain or manage your illness, not make lifelong friends. This is like an assignment or mission you give yourself, don't get distracted. You go in, do the work and leave.
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Re: how to survive a hospital stay

Postby manic666 » Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:18 pm

You are right on the reality check, it is a good thing i am strong but the weak do fall. Hence my beef when i see things i dont like, but you are right it does good in a way because you fight to keep out after that.
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Re: how to survive a hospital stay

Postby jessicaborthwick » Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:34 am

:evil: i live in victoria austrila. we dont have intustions we have short stay psyc wards. you have to be realy realy nuts to get in a psyc ward here they dont have enouth beds to fit all the people who need hospilation. about 15 or so years ago the goverment had the bright idear (NOT) of closeing down the intustions here for the short stay wards and treat people in the commounty insted of hosplisting them. :roll: they also dont drug u silly if they can help they dont give everyone sleeping tablets at night or drug u if you dont kneed it. the longest iv been in hospital was 3-4 months but iv been in more then 75 times and im only 21. thay often dont know what to do with me when i have a epsode so they just change my meds. when they drug me up its uslly to shut me up. :twisted:
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Re: how to survive a hospital stay

Postby manic666 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:02 am

Are hospitals in england are useually short stay . only the real case,s with no back up stay in. We get meds ok but usually the wrong ones ,an they turf you out as soon as you can string 2 words togeather. Im going for my six month check up tomorrow i ######6 hate it.
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