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an interesting article i just found

Postby themadness » Tue May 18, 2010 8:28 pm

what do u guys make of this article.


http://www.infowars.com/now-independent ... sychiatry/

i have a hard time with people who marginalize the complexity of our emotions and mind. are we being taken advantage of by the very ones who are supposed to be helping us?
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Re: an interesting article i just found

Postby Chucky » Tue May 18, 2010 9:23 pm

Whilst I do not believe in any way that professionals in the field of psychology are against helping patients, I do believe that there are far too many different disorders out there. The new revision to DSM V, however, actually seems like a useful one. The article you've referenced failed to mention that some disorders will actually be removed or merged into others in the new revision. So, this fact should have been mentioned. Asperger's Syndrome, for example, will disappear from the DSM and will be merged with High-Functioning Autism.

People can feel paranoid about the willingness of professionals to help them if they want, but I strongly suggest that these paranoid feelings are unjustified. The person feeling the paranoia should instead stop expecting their misery to vanish into thin air and make a genuine attempt to get themselves feeling better. Doctors don't cure people in the field of psychology. They are there to assist and guide us, while most of the work/effort must come from the patient him/herself.

Feeling antagonised by the DSM is a sure way to make your own problems worse. I'd argue - too - that patients shouldn't even be focussing on the DSM. It's for doctors to reference and the reason why they are revising it is because of newfound knowledge in the field of psychology and to make future diagnoses easier. In their esyes, it's all about heping people.

Perhaps the parent who feels the need to bring his/her kid to the doctor - because it [the kid] doesn't do what it's told - should take a real hard look at his/herself and realise what a bad and lazy parent he/she is.

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Re: an interesting article i just found

Postby zoegirl » Thu May 20, 2010 3:25 am

It is low on facts, it is writen to elicit an emotional effect in the reader playing on fears for children and conspiricy theories about pharmacetical companies (although thats true :D )

It's not anything that we didn't already know, but just presented in an unbalanced way that produces the desired effect in the reader.

Undoubtably drugs are used unneccesarily or inappropriately by some doctors - but they also help many people.

Maybe some kids will be stiffled by medication, others will achieve great things because of it - some will survive depression because of it.
In the past and present many kids have ben stiffled by povety, sickness, society, education... you name it - how many kids were unable to learn and left school early because of learning disabilities, ADHD etc.

I do agree that there is a disorder for almost every personality :!: Knowing the way you think can be a good thing, as long as you don't make it an excuse or let it define your life.

In the end it is up to the person or parent to learn what they can about treatment options, decide whether to accept the doctors opinion or get a second opinon, and workout how they are going to get on with their lives.
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Re: an interesting article i just found

Postby Chucky » Thu May 20, 2010 7:53 pm

zoegirl wrote: ... it is writen to elicit an emotional effect in the reader playing on fears for children and conspiricy theories about pharmacetical companies (although thats true :D )

I got that feeling too while reading it, but I dont' agree with you on the conspiracy theories implication.

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Re: an interesting article i just found

Postby zoegirl » Fri May 21, 2010 2:21 am

I got that feeling too while reading it, but I dont' agree with you on the conspiracy theories implication.

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Fair comment about the conspiracy theories :lol: it wasn't meant to be serious (I should try to make jokes more obvious), just that I think a lot of people don't really trust pharmaceutical companies or large companies in general to do the right thing or not to have other agendas - so when there is an article like this it plays on that pre-existing distrust.

I think it manipulates peoples existing fears about pharmaceutical companies (lack of) ethics in general and medicine efficacy - and that's mean :evil:
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Re: an interesting article i just found

Postby Chucky » Fri May 21, 2010 9:59 pm

Yes - you're right. it's the same type of thing that tabloid newspapers do - i.e. they know what the general public fears and they manipulate this knowledge of their fears through their articles/headlines. The most unbiased newspaper I have ever read is the Financial Times. I have noticed other reputable newspapers becoming more biased over the years, but I won't mention them.
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Re: an interesting article i just found

Postby allalone » Sat May 22, 2010 1:18 am

i totally see where your getting at and i ALWAYS believed that independent thinkers are being taken advantage of the media tries to prey on peoples fears because people dont want to see something different so if you think a certain way thats apart from others in your area you will most likey be diagnosed with a pyschotic disorder im sure not everyone is trying to "change you" but most likey some people that tell you "your not normal" are trying to change the way you think because its taboo to them and they will manipulate you to the point were its possible you can develop a disorder to cope with your insecurity of your current public appereance in other minds
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Re: an interesting article i just found

Postby Characteristics » Sun May 23, 2010 4:12 pm

zoegirl:"I think it manipulates peoples existing fears about pharmaceutical companies (lack of) ethics in general and medicine efficacy - and that's mean"


It isn't mean. It is just distasteful, in my opinion. I think manipulation via corporations is just too easy. I mean seriously, if you're going to manipulate someone/some group/something, (not that I'm condoning it) why not do something challenging?

I understand if this makes absolutely no sense; I get that a lot.
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Re: an interesting article i just found

Postby time_manager » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:19 pm

In my opinion, psychologists may have had good intentions in creating terms and cures for this "newfound" psychological behaviors but i think it shouldn't be overdone too. Drugs aren't really necessary unless the person diagnosed with this behaviors are hurting other people as well as themselves. Let's respect our differences, because it's what makes us unique in the first place. :wink:
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