The Hollow Mask Test Proves We see Things Other Cannot!!!

Hi,

I am looking to find out what other peoples experiences have been dealing with these things, I Have myself been diagnosed with this, however i am not a paranoid scitsofrenic, my problems have been very real. I released early on that the mental health staff were wrong in many of the important points they clung to, things went really bad when i pointed out hoiw corrupt their horrible Nazi system is. I would like to know what you experiences have been in your mind, the world, and dealing with your mental health staff. I am keen on meetiing up for a real chat if anybodies up for it.

I can cover fares, a bite to eat and a few drinks if anybody would like to come into Glasgow somwehere for a few hours. I've been messed around by the brew myself so i know what its like. I would be reluctant to invite anybody back to my home until I was sure about them, I know five people diagnosed with this condition and only one of them is truly a paranoid scitsofrenic, got pally with him and all hell broke loose unfortunatly, so i keep myself right these days.

They say we see things that are not there, however I beg to differ. When you show someone a hollow mask and ask them what's that, they say the face of a mask, when you turn it around and ask them again they say, the face of a mask, only one percent of the population can tell what side is conclave and what side is enclave, and those are diagnosed paranoid scitsofrenics. When they give poeple LSD it opens up more input filters in their brain and allows them access to more parts of the mind, then they can tell which side is the front and what side is the back. Quite the opposite of what their telling us, those who know what there talking about that is. Everything you see in films like Changeling, Dancing in the Dark and One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest is still happening today, when your smart enough not to take a lobotomy. Sad state of affairs thats why I want to meet decent people who i can really communicate with, those of you who have an open mind, decent heart and would like to know the real truth about our reality.

David

I have an open mind David - and very much so - but I think that your views are skewed too far such that they are coming across to me as being delusional. i'm speaking honestly here, and I hope that you respect my opinion and take it on board. If you are an open person as you imply you are, then I'm sure you'll do just that.

Kevin

Yeah... I'm not complete on your history, but it sounds like you are just starting the treatment? It's a long road. I've been diagnosed schizophrenic for 15 years now. Always take your pills.

What I can tell ya is it's good to think about your delusions and analyze them (or try to) from someone else's point of view. My parents really have helped me. And also a Buddhist group I joined. It's good to debunk your dulusions and conspiracy theories. I've debunked them all my life... wanna know what I ended up with? Nothing... it was just an old lady watering her garden. Or a helicopter on it's way to save someone's life. It's just junk... too much coming in at once.

Buddism & Zen for me was my way out. Most people have a half-hazzard familiarity with eastern philosophy but it helped me. I recommend it to all schizophrenics because it's a good way of organizing all that "space magic" we're always thinking about. And the world is magic... I think that is what drives so many schizos over the edge. The quest for magic. So Buddhism has helped a lot. It's like building a great temple of sanity. I actually look forward to my meditation time. It's so nice to come Home.

my 2 cents... peace

dearme wrote:Buddism & Zen for me was my way out. Most people have a half-hazzard familiarity with eastern philosophy but it helped me. I recommend it to all schizophrenics because it's a good way of organizing all that "space magic" we're always thinking about. And the world is magic... I think that is what drives so many schizos over the edge. The quest for magic. So Buddhism has helped a lot. It's like building a great temple of sanity. I actually look forward to my meditation time. It's so nice to come Home.

They have helped me too. Have you ever read the book entitled '101 Zen Stories'? It changed the way I look at life, and I regard it as my own little 'Bible'.

Hi Guys,

i will read that book you recomended my friend I've enjoyed the few Zen things I've been exposed to so far, it's a great philosophie. I hear yous guys saying you need the drugs but yous also make it sound like you might truly be having dellusions. Fortunalty I have not, and I know whats going on round about me, things are bad enough in some parts of our society you really don't need to your mind to create new things.

I'm very angry perhaps that is what you are picking up on. Its just one low life after another I meet in positions of responsibilty these days. I've only found one decent human being who hasn't made me worse during my time with the NHS. If your not imtimidated by them, or their power over you, they often don't like that loss of control and become manipulative with their tones and body language. Going high and low for no good reason, basically just trying to rile you up and get you to express negativity and hostility making their horrible job easier. Some of them evebn enjoy this sick game. I imagine this doesn't haoppen very often beacuse most people are tryusting of the system and swallow whatever crap their handed and told is best for them.

Lies Lies Lies

You cant correct a chemical imbalance by tearing down connections, they change their story when their confronted with that knowledge.
You don't calm somebody down giving them anti pychotics because they enlarge the basil ganglia making it more difficult to control your emotions, this is being completely echnored by the criminal controllers of the industry
They are lieing about the 66% of time permantent damage to your central nervous system occurs because the people that made the drugs are lieing, this happens all the time.

listen to the REAL Doctors on the YOUtube video the real truth about schstofrenia and brain fixing chemicals, 3 video extracts from the real thing, also one of these decent human beings is the author of Mad In America and this truly puts the mainstream of clueless nitwits who are destoying poeple without ever having the first clue what their doing, TO SHAME!

One woman is crying in this video, sometimes I cry when I think how badly my Nana suffered on these drugs, but mostly I am enraged at this Nazism. TO think how many people have died fopr my freedom and we have these clown lieing through their teeth hurting people all over the world and getting away with. The lies would be bad enough, but their forcing people to take a lobotomy and all the rest that comes with these disgusting drugs.

12% of your brain tissue destroyed at 15mg over 18 months. enlarged basil ganglia, lobotomy, permant CNS damage resulting in Diabetis, movement disorder, Tartive Dyskenesia, etc etc, damage to your DNA that you'll pass onto you kids. All this when some of the largest studies ever conducted by people like the World Health Organisation that clearly show that natural non drug treatments a\re far superior that dealing with these problems without destroyng a human being in every way possible. I wouldn't give my children these drugs and I don't think DFoctors would either if they know what they7 did to you, oh buts that right "We don't know how they work." I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE ANGRY !!!

they are being paid to go to confrences to talk about how wobderfult their drugs are, this is a conflict of interests. If reports are trut that big Pharma, is paying for these confrences then it becomes a lot more serious in terms of corruption.

And have I right to be a little paranoid givin that all they every talk about in Parliment is the Orwellion state we live in. Or the New World Order club talking about this Hegemony we live in. Or the government spokesman on BBC radio four talking about drills on 7/7 or 7/11 for the exact same thing, exact same place, at the exact same time. According to statatitions you have more chance of being hit by lightening every day for a year or winning the lotto every day for a year, Oh yes and then we lost out freedoms. And one of the only decent politicions in the US I am aware of, Ron Paul, who made an appearence in Bruno, is warning of of a 15 to twenty year deppression. I can't help but notice that 99% of JFK documentaries never mention he and Abraham Lincoln are the only two presidents to ever say, why don't we print out own money, who are we paying all this interest to, are the only two ever to be mrdered. Another fact you will not hear on almost all videos about this topic, 18 material wittnesses were murded in the JFK murder investigation, this also defies statistics, nothing like it has ever happened. 3 from car crashes 3 from heart attacks, 3 from natural causes, 2 from this 2 from that, 1 even dies from a bloody Karate chop to the neck for gods sake. So yet again I have the right to be a bit paranoid and a little suspicious, just as well or i would have half a brain by now and less of a chance of ever meeting a mate, let alone reproducing healthy offspring. I'm afraid I'm more in the real world than the doctors I've been dealing with, they believe things are unconnected and democratic. Well you oly have to google the builderberger to know that indusrty owners media owner and politicions are meeting up all round the world at secrte confrneces, and their breaking the law by dircetly contraveining the Logan act, because this is the very people you need to control the world. Some of opur braver independant journilists have this stuff on video, none of the police have a clue what their doing their. Evevrytings comepartmentalised and we all about to be screwed big time with this depression to take the last of our freedoms. And the very people who can tell you who's behaving responsibly with the power the weild are being cut aprt lobomty style. The true empaths of our society. And we are all empathic, something else that is being denied.

Do forgive my spelling, don't get much time ont These library computers. spread the truth my friends, LETS HAVE A REVOLUTION LIKE THE GREEKS ARE CALLING FOR WITH THEIR BANNERS TO THE WORLD ON TV!!!

I have moved this to the Anti-Psych Forum, which is where it should have been posted in the first place.

Good luck to your on your journey in life, David.

kevin

listen to the REAL Doctors on the YOUtube video the real truth about schstofrenia and brain fixing chemicals

Do you think that there could be a problem if YOUtube is your source of expert opinion?

Its ironic isn't it that lots of people think psychedelics are an escape from reality and that schizophrenics aren't living in the real world. I'm not schizophrenic but I've done psychedelics and I've had a few psychotic episodes. I get pissed off when I hear the disrespectful #######4 some people come out with about schizophrenia. They have a sheltered mindset and live in a cozy, sheltered reality of blissful ignorance whereas schizophrenics live every day in an unsheltered, perceptive mindset without the option of living in ignorance and as ironic as it is, the former believe they are living in the real world while the latter are living in some make believe fantasy world. According to the psychiatrists I'm mildly autistic, another blanket label they use in a desparate attempt to categorize what they don't understand.

I think you're spot on about everything you said. A negative hallucination is a hallucination where one is oblivious to something that is actually there. Negative hallucinations can be induced by hypnotic suggestion. One can therefore assume that beliefs alone can induce negative hallucinations. If a whole society is conditioned to accept a belief which causes them to be oblivious to a real phenomenon and a select few who happen to be immune to the negative hallucination for whatever reason, perceive this phenomenon, whos hallucinating? During those psychotic episodes I had I observed lots of very interesting things. I really wanted some evidence that it was all in my head because it scared the living $#%^ out of me and although I never got that evidence, I did get evidence that some of the things I was seeing were hallucinations induced by unquestioned beliefs. For example I heard a story about a burglar who waited for cars to pass by to kick the door in and the person telling the story said that the people in the house will feel the house shake a little and assume its the cars going by causing it. I wasn't really paying attention when that guy was telling me the story and I obviously accepted it as truth without questioning it. During the psychotic episode I was convinced a robber was going to break into my house and I not only felt the room shaking every time a car drove by, I even heard the change of the table rattling. I then thought about it and realized that it made no sense because someone kicking a door couldn't even shake a house, let alone a 3 story appartment building. The hallucination stopped when I made that realization. That is a highly interesting observation. I learned a valuable lesson there too. Our mental firewalls can be bypassed when we're not paying attention to what we're being told. This particular hallucination I had after staying up too long on amphetamines. In retrospect I can see how fluid my logic was, a bit like the fluid logic we have when we're dreaming. I think what was happening was I was beginning to dream while I was still awake.

I have a lot of experience with lucid dreams and sleep paralysis. I often observe the whole process of falling asleep to being in a dream and its some highly interesting $#%^. I get this pulsation thing in my head and a sinking feeling right before my body shuts down. When it shuts down my bodies about 95% paralyzed and hallucinations come on pretty much instantly. What triggers the dream is a slip in my logical system. I let my logic go fluid for a few seconds and I'm in a dream. I quickly regain my everyday logic so its a lucid dream. Its fairly obvious that a dream is no less real than everyday life. What we perceive as reality is just a representation of something that our brain gives us. How our brains construct these representations depends on our beliefs. Beliefs are made of logic. What we call reality seems to be constructed of logic. The brains like a computer, our belief system is our OS and our logical system is the programming language used to build the OS. There seems to be some kind of threshold beliefs need to pass in order for them to be accepted as instructions by the brain. For example when I started trying to fly in lucid dreams I couldn't do it. I knew that since it was a dream I could do anything so why couldn't I do it? One night in a random non lucid dream I had this magic bin and I was flying around a subway station with it and the situation was just so ridiculous I realized I was dreaming in mid air. That overrid the doubt or whatever it was that was preventing me from overcoming that self imposed limitation because from then on I started getting off the ground when I tried to fly. I wonder to what extent these principles apply in every day reality.

I don't have much faith in the mental health system. Being misdiagnosed as schitzo and almost being talked into ECT will do that. I believe they did me more harm then good. I'm not saying that medication is bad for everyone,but it sure as hell isn't the answer to everything.

Hi, I'm interested in your offer, in the off chance it's still open. I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, and I'm not sure I have it. Though the people around me seem to think I have it. I would love to talk to you, I've never been to glasgow. if you are interested please let me know.
phoenix