The mental health profession, used to destroy undesirables?

When a person is targeted for destruction by a government (e.g. whistleblowers), the mental health profession comes in handy. The extreme harassment that can be deployed against a target, thanks to the informant networks in this country, is so intense that many targets will have their sanity questioned when they report it. In addition the tactics are specifically designed to mimic the officially recognized symptoms of mental illness. The "authorities" are harassing the target, and the "authorities" say what the symptoms of mental illness are - get it?

If a target makes the mistake of entrusting her mind to a pill-pusher with a medical degree, she's screwed.

The Hippocratic Oath simply doesn't come into play in these cases. It's very easy to take a pledge to heal the sick when it doesn't cost you anything, and may even create business for you. It's quite another matter when a member of the secret police (yes, they exist) takes you aside and says, "You will deny this person care, you will prescribe these mind-destroying drugs, or we will destroy you as we destroyed her."

This is happening in the NATO nations, including the United States, right now.

How do you know? I could reasonably see drugging you to MAKE you insane but the definitions of psychosis in both law and psychiatry don't seem to support your conclusion.

First off, I'm going into the mental health profession; from experience with doctors as well as first-hand accounts while in-patient, I have never seen this. Almost every person I've ever seen while in-patient was there because they were either: 1) mentally unstable or 2) detoxing. Yes, it is a political move that has historically been used in the former Soviet Union and other countires, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it still happens.

Swamp56 wrote:First off, I'm going into the mental health profession; from experience with doctors as well as first-hand accounts while in-patient, I have never seen this. Almost every person I've ever seen while in-patient was there because they were either: 1) mentally unstable

I would change your wording to read:

"I have never noticed this." (Changing emphasis and wording)

and:

"Almost every person I've ever seen while in-patient was there because they were either: 1) perceived to be mentally unstable..."

(Adding wording to clarify that they are only mentally unstable in your opinion.)

Someone who has been subjected to intense harassment and sleep deprivation campaigns for years on end is not going to come across as having a full deck.

I believe it is possible. The CIA have used brainwashing techniques on people in the past (which has been documented on television and books), so it may still be happening.

The thing that has really bothered me is when I see belief in the paranormal as criteria of mental illness.

Granted, I can see a professional being concerned if a patient claims to be in active contact with Planet NebulanX14W or says he is haunted by Bruce Willis. However saying that you believe in the possibility that life exist elsewhere in the universe, that all followers of reincarnation (essentially condemning most if not all the Asian belief systems and cultures), or that science may finally be on the verge of explaining spiritual activity as a form of time refractions is proof of insanity, is not only arrogant but frankly sticking their nose into something that they don't belong.

I think it'd be hard to dismiss the completely plausible case made in this posting. I just think of the stigma. It's all about the stigma and it cannot be avoided. Once you get the label, once your diagnosed, once it's considered a 'disease' then you're automatically placed inside a whole new box. Mental heath professionals, obviously, are a key part of this.

There have been talks here in america on population control. It was right on CNN, sometime around last winter. They asked viewers to send in their opinions on the subject. The submissions they aired were horrifying. One guy mentioned mandatory sterilization, another mentioned outright killing any baby that exceeded the "quota" of the parent. I know it was just a citizen, how wicked a thought though, why not give the babies up for adoption to those that can't give birth to them.

Population control - instead of fixing the system that people take advantage of (keep having kids to up their welfare check), keep the flaws in place, rob people of their lives instead. Their way is absolute, others are worthless.

Population control - If you don't contribute to what can be deemed a corrupt society (by corrupt I mean straying from the truth of life), you are deemed undesirable.

I won't debate the side effects/benefits of antipsychotics right now. If you can pay for it out of pocket, congratulations, you aren't deemed as an undesirable, you keep the precious money flowing. If you rely on the state to pay for it, do you honestly believe they like handing out all that money? It's most certainly not in their interest, living the lavish life is what our leaders want. What happens when the time comes for you to repay that debt? Enslaved into labor as long as they see fit? Taking your life? You can hold your own belief, it's only speculation on my part. Or will the psych meds they give those who utilize the state, will they be the ones that rot your brain from the inside out, so they can use that money to compensate special interest groups who got them into power in the first place.

The second I was deemed undesirable was the last second I put my faith in man to lead those under them in the right direction.

I was going into the one lab for a research study, to try and make money to actually be able to partake in society -- told me I was unfit because of what goes on in my head. No, there are plenty of people there that have the same ideas I do that they pay money to, they just weren't given the mark of undesirable, they weren't marked to be eliminated for population control. What would be the next step for me? Turn to the state to rely on them for psych meds and money and be weeded out, turn to crime and be thrown in prison to be weeded out, abandon their system altogether, or commit suicide and be weeded out which is the goal in the first place.

I've come across plenty of friendly doctors. character does not reflect knowledge. You can have clean hands in the psych field and honestly believe what is being done is helpful, that doesn't make you any less of a pawn to administer weeding out those above them see fit.

If you don't see something, is it because it isn't there? Or because you choose not to open your eyes? It's easy to live in ignorance, the claim being it absolves you from responsibility/accountability.

They can barely keep track of the people they WANT to target.

I don't think there is a grand scheme. This happens because people don't give a damn. You don't need some far-reaching conspiracy plan to destroy people, no. You just stop caring and it accomplishes the same thing. You don't have to be 'targeted' if society is like a net with holes in it and the only people who fit through the holes are the ones that aren't wanted.

It's like a sieve which saves the good stuff and drains out the waste. It just works. They don't care if you pass through it nor do they even need to know you exist at all so long as the sieve functions.

Also don't be too quick to judge professionals. A couple might actually KNOW a thing or two. Unless of course if you have to fly on a plane you make sure that all the aircraft mechanics were inexperienced trainees. Or when you ride a bus you better make sure that the driver never trained in bus driving or had a license. Maybe when you have surgery you should ask for a backyard mechanic instead of, you know, a surgeon who actually went to SCHOOL for a while.

Just occasionally, some times, people might actually know more than you. It does happen.

On not being able track those they want to target: Mandating health care, when it kicks into effect here, if you don't have health insurance you will pay a fine. Over and over again until you get it, because it's Mandated.

--Why would they have spent, what was it, almost $800 billion, that they didn't have in the first place, without first having a means to know who has it and who doesn't? I'm not saying our federal govt. is completely competent, nor am I saying they are completely incompetent.
--Say they won't track your status on a monthly basis, but only when you try and receive healthcare. If you weren't in the system, how would they backdate how much you owe for not having insurance since it's mandated? If they weren't worried about the exact sum you owe, just the fact that you have zero insurance would be enough to throw cuffs on you and throw you in jail, much like not paying/submitting state and fed tax forms and payments. The system alone is enough of a tracking method. People can avoid it, but they would have to avoid anything associated with it for the remainder of the time the law is in effect. Probably afterwards as well.
--Even if it's not a chip that stores all your medical records, the fact that the law is in place enables the tracking. I'm not saying that anywhere you go you'll be required to show you're insured, because as it stands now, no one can ask you for your citizenship papers.

On society being a net with holes: What's that quote, history is doomed to repeat itself if one doesn't learn the mistakes and apply appropriate reform, whatever it exactly is, it's along those lines anyway. How appalled do you feel when you think about genocide in a country when it is brought into light? How/why would they do such a thing? People stand up, rally together, put an end to the inhumanity. America saw this after WWII. The fed govt took notice, they couldn't take the same route Hitler took. So they started on figuring out how else to accomplish this. The Cold War wasn't about Capitalism vs. Communism, it was about learning their secrets for controlling the people. Espionage was taken to a whole new level.

I kind of see where you're headed with people just turning away and let the cards fall where they fall. It makes sense. A man doesn't want to work, let him starve and freeze in the night. Also, I couldn't say what a professional really knows or doesn't know, how could I say anything? No, I can't. I can see what tools are available at this period in time though. Our world is a wicked world, filled with deceit and hate. Maybe I'm wrong, I cannot predict the future, and in fact I hope I'm mislead.