Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Smacster wrote:Am I Allowed to ask you what your dx is, Butterfly?

Sure... Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Clinical & Seasonal Depression and PTSD.

Butterfly Faerie wrote:

killuminati wrote:
A Moderator is supposed to moderate content such as foul language, abusive language, abusive posts...not the opinions of a post.

Mods and Admins are also members of the site and have been long before the volunteered to moderate or admin. They have a right just like anyone else to post.... We also as staff do post when we are struggling and would like support from others... we aren't here just to moderate.

And Chucky is right some people have gone overboard in the doctor department... but that's to be expected on a forum like this.

This forum was created for this, but everyone has a right to respond.
Not everyone is going to like responses to their posts in here and everywhere else.
But everyone is aloud to respond whether they are staff or member.

You can wishywashit any way you would like. Both you and Chucky have continued to defend psychiatrists at every single turn in the last 3 days. And that's fine. But you guys never really back it up by giving an example of why we should support your opinion. I think I believe we are dealing with a lot of hurt feelings when it comes to psychiatrists neglect, attitude, or unsupportive attitudes. In many cases people are going to hold on to that because they were at their worst and feel wronged or violated by the "Professional" which was supposed to be on our side and help us.

Why not start your own post on how great psychiatrists are and helpful they are. This way you and Chucky can tell us why you think psychiatry does so much and helps so much. Because right now, you're doing little in the way to actually refute the topic with any facts or experiences. Please stop hijacking post topics and start telling us why psychiatry is so great and helpful... This way we can understand how it works.

Show me respect, everyone is allowed their opinions, I didn't saw that all shrinks were fantastic, I said I HAVE HAD GREAT EXPERIENCES re-read what i've written.




I never once said you had to support my opinion, where did I ever say that in my posts to you, never.
You have your opinion I have mine. There will be those who agree with me, and those who will agree with you simple as that.
I also never said that there were never any doctors that showed neglect to their patients. I said that YES THERE ARE THOSE WHO THAT ARE LIKE THAT and yes people deal with it, I also said there are good ones out there too.
Go back and re-read my posts in this forum.
Why you are trying to argue with me on this is ridiculous. I've said what I wanted to say on this thread, and you have too.

I'm not hijacking... I'm giving my opinion and you don't like that.
I'm not arguing with you, you are want to but I'm not sinking that low... you don't like what I've written that's fine... continue on with the topic. But if I want to respond to something I will just like I will with anything else on the site.
Anyone has a right to come into the anti-psych forum and defend to a certain degree if they've had good experiences they can share it with those who've had bad. Not everyone is going to agree with what is written in this forum...
You need to step back abit my friend don't get so up tight about this.

Ps:

I SAID THAT PSYCHIATRY has been helpful to me, and others I've known. I didn't say it works for everyone in the world whose dealt with it themselves you aren't reading posts correctly or just skimming them, you are putting words in my mouth....

Please do not disrespect me again on the site, my replies weren't meant to be a target at you, you took it out of proportion, you need to take a breath, step back and re-read it. There's no wrong answers here.

killuminati, as Butterfly has implied, you are coming across as grossly paranoid here and what you're saying is in no way representative of ho Butterfly and I have behaved. I do'nt feel that I should even bother trying to defend my case though, becvause you would just twist my words around again to suit yourself (such is your paranoid nature). I feel sad that you think in the way that you do, but I feel no obligation whatsoever to help you in any way.

Kevin

My experience of Psychiatrists tells me they can't diagnose someone any better then the rest of us. I was told by one psych I had cyclothymia, depression and a personality disorder. Another one said I had aspergers traits with a personality disorder and another said I had nothing wrong and was "just bored and unemployed".

Mind you, the last one only saw me for about 10 minutes and came to the conclusion I'm fine. You know what, he's probably right, and to be honest, seeing anymore psychs would be a waste of time and theirs. I mean they've probably got better things to do, like prescribing silly anti-depressnats which did nothing, or sit around with their feet up on the table drinking tea or coffee. Or messing about on the computer, to be bothered with doing their job properly.

I guess if you want a proper assessment you need to pay for it or become a mass-murderer and get assessed by the top psychs in Broadmoor, which is a mental hospital in the UK that holds the most violent criminals such as serial killers (I'm not going to become a mass-murderer, just saying ). Over here in the UK you can get it for free, you just have to wait about 7 months, and get incompetent psychs who couldn't give a toss. No way will I pay for it, I've more important things to waste money on, such as a wireless router for the XBOX.

Some disorders are harder to diagnose then others.
There are different kinds of depression and sometimes they'll be mistaken for something.
Sometimes to to get a proper diagnosis they need to rule out an other possible causes.. but some people do get the diagnosis wrong and then find out later it's something else. I think too sometimes the reason for that is because so many symptoms are alike for different disorders.

Sometimes since BPD is often hard to diagnose depending on the person they later get diagnosed with having bipolar.

There are better doctors then some, but that if you think about it it is with every profession out there... they'll be those who do a great job, and some that aren't as good, or just corrupt... that's in ever profession....

I feel bad for those who get misdiagnosis's, it ruins the trust in receiving more help it makes it hard for people to want to look for someone else when dealing with something negative like that. Health care too is different in each country, some are better than others....

I'm lucky as we don't have to pay for anything, we have excellent health care.... I feel bad for those that do and it doesn't work out for them therapy wise, it sucks.

Sorry you had such a crappy experience Morning Star.

Well thanks, but to be honest I'm not that fussed now anyway. They guy who saw me last, gave me a silly sheet with counselling places, like AA, or anger management. But it took so long I just lost motivation to bother with it all. Then he said, next time you're feeling low go to the doc and he'll give you anti-depressants. Well they didn't work last time so they won't work next time..

I'm not a priority. You have schizophrenics and Bipolars, they're mentally ill, and all the free health-care would go more towards people with serios mental illness like those. Fair enough, I suppose, but if you want a decent psych over here you have to pay for it. Since it makes sense the better psychs would cost money, like anything else in life.

Anyhow, I don't think I have BPD or any disorder. Probably am just bored.

Chucky wrote:killuminati, as Butterfly has implied, you are coming across as grossly paranoid here and what you're saying is in no way representative of ho Butterfly and I have behaved. I do'nt feel that I should even bother trying to defend my case though, becvause you would just twist my words around again to suit yourself (such is your paranoid nature). I feel sad that you think in the way that you do, but I feel no obligation whatsoever to help you in any way.

Kevin

Now I take offense to you telling me I have a "paranoid nature". Maybe you have a degree which allows you to diagnose this?

The fact that you and Butterfly continue to say things like "you cant say that" or "psychologists have been great for me" with nothing more does not say very much about why you feel that way. Not even an experience to share or why you feel you were helped so well. Nothing. Start posting something with content instead of hollow statements.

Why don't both of you especially you Kevin, do some reading up on R.D. Laing. It may help.

Take Care.

Chucky wrote:killuminati, as Butterfly has implied, you are coming across as grossly paranoid here and what you're saying is in no way representative of ho Butterfly and I have behaved. I do'nt feel that I should even bother trying to defend my case though, becvause you would just twist my words around again to suit yourself (such is your paranoid nature). I feel sad that you think in the way that you do, but I feel no obligation whatsoever to help you in any way.

Kevin

Kevin seriously, that is a very rude thing to say. I don't believe I was being that rude to you. I almost would want an apology from you but I will not expect it.

Also, the way you are talking now is EXACTLY how doctors, psychiatrists act. The "I am holier then thou".

The fact is you haven't defended your case at all.

morning star wrote: Over here in the UK you can get it for free, you just have to wait about 7 months, and get incompetent psychs who couldn't give a toss. No way will I pay for it, I've more important things to waste money on, such as a wireless router for the XBOX.

Right on! XBOX!!