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Doctors are Power Vampyres.

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Re: Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Postby Smacster » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:17 am

I had a reiki therapist come over to do a few sessions on me. I didn't feel anything, so I looked it up online. Turns out that Reiki, scientifically now (because there are no spiritual measures) has no more effect that placebo. If there were other methods of determining whether it is effective, i'd love to see them, but as of right now it is nothing.
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Re: Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Postby Ecco » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:21 am

But, I have felt a calming effect from Reiki and shivers in my whole body so I would say that it does something. :)
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Re: Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Postby Smacster » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:29 am

Yeah, I definitely felt a little power, but I attributed it to the calming music and candle smells, plus some woman rubbing all over my body... who wouldn't feel good?

Edit: It might be effective. The jury is still out. I think it is. But the whole notion of "Reiki'ing an item" (imbuing reiki into an object, like a sea shell in my case) I think is completely preposterous.
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Re: Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Postby killuminati » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:27 pm

Claudius the Berserk wrote:They seek to remove the soul by means of drugs. This is obviously impossible and very soon they will pay for their crimes against the natural power structures of our species. They are motivated by prestige and so declare the disturbed a danger who they alone are brave enough to tame. These ignorant baffoons create simplistic systems of symptoms that they compare with the hidden complexity of the brain. Then they use these pathetic excuses & their demented ideas to impose concoctions on people they do not know. But soon they will pay for their crimes against the individuality of men. They have a simple social model they wish to impose on all - these pathetic docotrs of the soul. But so very soon things will require complexity and they will be swept aside by the currents of their own history. Scrambling after lost meaning in their dead knowledge whilst others move beyond their greedy reach.



Bravo! Well Done! :D

I agree with your post, as this is somewhat my experience as well. This of course is an artistic way to put it. Using deep feeling associated with the sometimes very insane world that is psychiatry today. Like you said hopefully things will change and psychiatrists will realize there is a real living human being human soul that needs to be treated as such. Today the world of psychiatry is resembles more of a mindless medication mill.

This is more of the telling of the future of psychiatry in poetic words. Well done! :D
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Re: Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Postby Butterfly Faerie » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:08 pm

I have to disagree not all doctors are out there to treat a patient badly.
Yes there are some that are corrupt but not all doctors are like that at all.
People can speak from personal experience, but there are more good doctors then bad.
I had nothing but positive experiences with the doctors that treated me and I've been extremely grateful to them.

You can't put a bad spin on doctors from a few bad experiences, the trust might not be there but there are good ones who could treat you properly and help you a great deal in a positive manner.
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Re: Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Postby killuminati » Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:10 pm

Butterfly Faerie wrote:I have to disagree not all doctors are out there to treat a patient badly.
Yes there are some that are corrupt but not all doctors are like that at all.
People can speak from personal experience, but there are more good doctors then bad.
I had nothing but positive experiences with the doctors that treated me and I've been extremely grateful to them.

You can't put a bad spin on doctors from a few bad experiences, the trust might not be there but there are good ones who could treat you properly and help you a great deal in a positive manner.


The only problem I have with your multiple posts today defending psychiatrists is when you say "you can't". You have done this twice today and its not proper to tell someone that they "can't" say something. Its their opinion. But I will not tell you, you can't say what want to say. The problem with telling someone "you can't" is it comes across as a God complex.
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Re: Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Postby Butterfly Faerie » Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:29 pm

I'm telling you that you cannot say the whole world is bad in terms of treatment and doctors, because of a handful that you've dealt with yourself. AS there is a TON of those out there that are fantastic and are willing to help those in need without the power trip.

Sometimes people feel the need to repeat themselves to get the point across.
I'm sorry you had such a hard time with it yourself, but you can't speak for everyone else.
I don't believe in god that everyone preaches so god stuff doesn't' work on me unfortunately.
Everyone has a right to their opinions I'm say you have said in posts that EVERYONE (doctor related) are horrible people. Yet I can't say that that is wrong? Because it's true not all doctors in this world treat their patents horribly.
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Re: Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Postby killuminati » Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:36 am

Butterfly Faerie wrote:I'm telling you that you cannot say the whole world is bad in terms of treatment and doctors, because of a handful that you've dealt with yourself. AS there is a TON of those out there that are fantastic and are willing to help those in need without the power trip.

Sometimes people feel the need to repeat themselves to get the point across.
I'm sorry you had such a hard time with it yourself, but you can't speak for everyone else.
I don't believe in god that everyone preaches so god stuff doesn't' work on me unfortunately.
Everyone has a right to their opinions I'm say you have said in posts that EVERYONE (doctor related) are horrible people. Yet I can't say that that is wrong? Because it's true not all doctors in this world treat their patents horribly.


Yes but again I never said EVERY DOCTOR is horrible. I just find it interesting that someone sticks up for psychiatrists at every turn in four different topics in one day.

Again. I never said that EVERY doctor is horrible. SO to say that's what I said is simply incorrect. And I take offense at being quoted incorrectly. And no where did anyone say they speak for everyone else.

Also keep this post in its context. Its art. It reads like poetry and it should be kept as such.
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Re: Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Postby Butterfly Faerie » Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:55 pm

Ok you didn't say every doctor in this thread.

I stick up for doctors in mental health because those who've treated me have been great.

I agree that not all doctors are that way, but you agreed to one quote from claudius the berserk.... made it seem like you were blaming every doctor there is, not specific doctors that treated you.

No harm done.
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Re: Doctors are Power Vampyres.

Postby Chucky » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:59 pm

killuminati, this being the anti-psych forum, one can understand your views, but everyone's opinion is based on theor own personal experiences. Butterly Faerie has had good doctors/psychiatrist, which is why she stands up for them. You might have had bad doctors/psychiatrists, hence your pessimism about them. Me?- i've had both good and bad but I don't question the 'art' of psychiatry. You are welcome to be pessimistic about doctors if you like, but I think it'd be better for you to stop focussing on this [pessimism] and instead try to get better in your own way. i mean, if you don't want to see a doctor - that's fine - don't. See how you can get by in your own way. it's no problem.

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