25 GOOD REASONS WHY PSYCHIATRY MUST BE ABOLISHED

Jimbo,

Your obviously very young and new to the mental health system and haven't experienced coercive psychiatry. Just a word of advice, tread carefully, many people diagnosed SZ have had their lives ruined by psychiatry.

I hate the way some people that feel they can write a few offensive sentences then write after it 'no offense or insult intended' and think that excuses them.

You could have easily written the author must think psychiatrists are out to get them, but no.

You stereo-typed people with Schizophrenia as paranoid and believeing people are out to get them. It's not on!

Jimbo, your a _ _ _ _ no offense or insult intended.

Jimbo wrote:That list about psychiatry doesn't even deserve to be responded to. But I will anyway. Obviously, whoever posted that list, had an extremely bad experience with a psychiatrist or two and has since had it out for them. Also, it appears as though the person who posted that has symptoms of schizophrenia. The overall mood of that posting is "these people are out to get us!", "They have evil intentions and must be stopped!". It might just be me but I feel like that type of attitude is reflective not of the truth of the matter, but rather the schizoid thought processes of whoever believes it. I don't mean that as an insult, I am just trying to bring to light the paranoia that seems to underlie a lot of the claims about psychiatrists.

So what you are saying is, this post (25 Reasons) isn't really worth responding to because it was obviously written by a schizophrenic. Moreover, the author and anyone that agrees with the author have paranoid thought processes that are completely ludicrous and schiziod. Is this what your saying?

And no one should be offended because you've stated no insult intended?

Im looking forward to the anti-psych forum and avoiding these conflicts. This guy really pushed my buttons, I apologise to all the other posters.

Guest,
I will get the proposed anti-psych forum posted in the admin/mods forum. Hopefully you will see the new forum up and running shortly.

Kathy

Anonymous wrote:Also Kathy,

When does seanetal return and this anti psych forum going to be set up?

I don't think putting up an anti-psych forum is a good idea, that is just going to make people on here upset and angry.

I suggest that if you are still anti-psychatiry Lat to just find a forum that is about that.

Why don't we just drop the issue and attempt to move on. We aren't getting anywhere by going back and forth. The main point is that I believe in psychiatry (for the most part) while others don't. Fair enough. Let's try to keep the debate structured around that. Deal?

Hi all!

Pardon that short absence, I would have loved to have been the first to reply to many of the past 2 pages worth of comments.

Lets see, this post may be a bit out of order, I have a lot of things that I would like to cover.

First and foremost, I do believe that the idea of having an "anti-psych" forum on a community of mental health support forums is absolutely outrageous. This is a place (or at least as far as I can see it, keeping into consideration my recent disovery of this site) where people can discuss their problems openly with one another, without the discomfort of someone sitting at a chair across from you, taking notes on your every move. Why on earth would one put an "anti-psych" forum right in the middle of this? Please, moderators, consider my request to have this removed. I understand that there are people out there who dislike or even dispise psychiatry, and I agree that some of their points are valid, but why bring forth those views here, in this community? Please find another site that will host your anti-psych forum. I would find it perfectly reasonable for their to be a thread in the general forum entitled "Problems with modern psychiatric practice," or something along those lines, but a whole section? Why is it necessary? It is rediculous, in my opinion. If there were a forum about tennis, would their be a forum in there titled "anti-tennis"? NO WAY. Please, do not let these people convince you to let this area live. It is not safe for the community. Anyone who agrees with me on this point, please speak up. Your opinion matters, i'm fairly certain (or at least I hope). Was a consensus reached, or did the mods just decide it would be a good idea? If the later is the case, could you please present to me the case for this section?

Secondly, havOk, posting things such as:

annihilate psychiatry!!!!!!!!!!!

is very pointless and annoying, to be frank. If you strongly dislike psychiatry, I would love to debate your points of evidence with you. Honestly, however, I really don't think that you have a real grasp of what psychology really is, or you wouldn't be making statements such as the above.

Lastly (for now), and most importantly, towards the originator of this thread, what ever your name may be.

Please listen to me, before spitting out various defenses and counter-arguments. Your anger is misdirected. Most of the things that you have stated I strongly agree with. I understand your thoughts on the matter, and have came to many of the same conclusions as you. I read just as much, if not more about things of the same nature as you.

Let me state that I am very against medication, except in extremely rare cases where it is absolutely necessary. Just because there are many, and I do say many, problems with modern psychiatry, does not mean there is not need for the field. In fact, psychiatry is a necessary field in today's society. Please see my post under the bipolar forum, and you will see that much can be acomplished without the use of medicine. I do believe that your anger should be focused toward the pharmicutical industry instead. Drugs are not the only treatment provided by psychiatrists. Yes they can provide meds, but many a shrink has helped me out throughout the course of my life without having to provide me with meds.

As far as your attitude toward society, (and this is not really appropriate for a psych forum) Yes, we did create it, but it is quite real. It is reality, after all. We created it all for our benefit, obviously. Yes, there are problems, but don't even try to tell me you think chaos is the solution. Please...

Mr. Yowler

P.S. I apologize that this was so jumbled and not thought out, I am only able to see a few previous posts on the same screen, so I just kinda had to remember some things I wanted to comment on. I didn't even think to open a new window...

I don't think putting up an anti-psych forum is a good idea, that is just going to make people on here upset and angry.

if they get angry, then they can just stay out of these threads. there needs to be room for the radical, just as for anyone else.

The main point is that I believe in psychiatry (for the most part) while others don't. Fair enough. Let's try to keep the debate structured around that. Deal?

hey!! get over yourself...

First and foremost, I do believe that the idea of having an "anti-psych" forum on a community of mental health support forums is absolutely outrageous.

then go away!

I understand that there are people out there who dislike or even dispise psychiatry, and I agree that some of their points are valid, but why bring forth those views here, in this community?

why?! because just as you said, mryowler. we have valid points. if these threads offend you, then shoo. this place is therapy for me, and obviously for others.

It is rediculous, in my opinion. If there were a forum about tennis, would their be a forum in there titled "anti-tennis"?

that's a horrible analogy, mrfowler.

Please, do not let these people convince you to let this area live. It is not safe for the community. Anyone who agrees with me on this point, please speak up. Your opinion matters, i'm fairly certain (or at least I hope). Was a consensus reached, or did the mods just decide it would be a good idea? If the later is the case, could you please present to me the case for this section?

mryowler... go !@#$ing away! if you don't like it, why sit here and get yourself all worked up over it. the radicals need a place to go too. what is this a !@#$ing witch hunt?!

Secondly, havOk, posting things such as:

annihilate psychiatry!!!!!!!!!!!

is very pointless and annoying, to be frank. If you strongly dislike psychiatry, I would love to debate your points of evidence with you. Honestly, however, I really don't think that you have a real grasp of what --psychology-- really is, or you wouldn't be making statements such as the above.

this is about psychiatry. i have no problem with psychology. and when i say annihlate psychiatry, i mean for the purpose of reform. i'm a nihilist. what more could you expect from me?
you say you'd love to debate points of evidence with me? bring it, 1234.

Please listen to me, before spitting out various defenses and counter-arguments. Your anger is misdirected. Most of the things that you have stated I strongly agree with. I understand your thoughts on the matter, and have came to many of the same conclusions as you. I read just as much, if not more about things of the same nature as you.

who's side are you on, buddy???

Let me state that I am very against medication, except in extremely rare cases where it is absolutely necessary. Just because there are many, and I do say many, problems with modern psychiatry, does not mean there is not need for the field. In fact, psychiatry is a necessary field in today's society. Please see my post under the bipolar forum, and you will see that much can be acomplished without the use of medicine. I do believe that your anger should be focused toward the pharmicutical industry instead. Drugs are not the only treatment provided by psychiatrists. Yes they can provide meds, but many a shrink has helped me out throughout the course of my life without having to provide me with meds

did someone miss the point completely? did someone do the walking contradiction dance?

As far as your attitude toward society, (and this is not really appropriate for a psych forum) Yes, we did create it, but it is quite real. It is reality, after all. We created it all for our benefit, obviously. Yes, there are problems, but don't even try to tell me you think chaos is the solution. Please...

the only way to fix it is to flush it all away.

Is Jimbo and Mr Yowler the same person? They sure do sound/write the same.