25 GOOD REASONS WHY PSYCHIATRY MUST BE ABOLISHED

MizzCatharine » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:04 pm
I gotta beg to differ with u on that
I have seen psychologists & psychiatrists and I must say that I am more confident with the one that is also an MD.
Psychiatrists are into the facts and deal with a hard science. Psychologists are actually kinda scary to me because some of them like to create their own realities

It's the one's with the MD that testify in court and get you locked up. Thery are also the ones who prescribe the drugs, push them, and tell you that you will be locked up until you take them. Then the MDs are the ones who testify against you in a medication hearing to get an order for you to be held down and jammed with a needle. The psychiatrists are very scary to someone who has been commited to an institution.

There is not so much hard science in psychiatry. They don't have a good test to see if you have a mental ilness. It can take them years to tell if you have schizophrenia or bipolar. There is no simple brain scan or EEG that is definitive.

They do have physiological tests for disorders..though I'm not sure if there is a physiological way of determining if a person is bipolar.
True they can get u locked up, but there are people that should be locked up. I dont think most of them wish to devote their careers to unnecessarily locking people up.
I do agree with u about the pharmaceutical thing. They are totally pimped out by the pharmaceutical industry. Theyre not gonna force u to take a medication. But who is perfect?

My exheadshrink wanted to try me on an antidepressant that bipolars use, not because he thought I was bipolar, but just because I was infinitely depressed. I was turned off by the fact it was an antipsychotic and said no..that was was the end of that.

I guess I havent had the bad experiences some have had. I'm sure there are nutty psychiatrists and psychologists. It's said that they go into those fields tryin to solve their own probs

MizzCatharine wrote:They do have physiological tests for disorders..though I'm not sure if there is a physiological way of determining if a person is bipolar.
True they can get u locked up, but there are people that should be locked up. I dont think most of them wish to devote their careers to unnecessarily locking people up.
I do agree with u about the pharmaceutical thing. They are totally pimped out by the pharmaceutical industry. Theyre not gonna force u to take a medication. But who is perfect?

My exheadshrink wanted to try me on an antidepressant that bipolars use, not because he thought I was bipolar, but just because I was infinitely depressed. I was turned off by the fact it was an antipsychotic and said no..that was was the end of that.

It wasn't the end of it for me. Or others. There was a guy who had locked himself out of his motel room naked. He got locked up for 9 months and force drugged. Another guy who was hitch-hiking on the interstate got locked up for 8 months and force drugged. It took me two whole years of lawyers and court battles to avoid forced drugging.

Well, I can honestly say that psychiatry (namely Dialectical Behaviour Therapy) has taught me many things - new life skills, the ability to control my emotions etc. It has really improved my life in many areas, and it saved my now three year relationship.

At the same time though, I find it oddly coincidental that I started having panic attacks and what I can only describe as OCD-like thoughts and behaviours AFTER I started DBT. I no longer have panic attacks thanks to hypnotherapy, but occassionally I get the odd, intrusive thought that honest to God I'd never experienced before until I began DBT. I recall having urges to jump out of cars when I was in my late teens, but that was about it as far as OCD-like symptoms went. Now I have an aversion to metal - I cannot touch it for prolonged periods of time, so I have to use plastic handled cutlery.

Either way, it's far more bearable than watching yourself destroy the people around you and the very relationships that you're desperate to hold on to.

17. Because psychiatrists, particularly white male psychiatrists, are homophobic - the American Psychiatric Association (APA) once labelled homosexuality as a "mental illness" or "mental disorder" - and have used forced electroshock on lesbians, trying to coerce them into adopting a heterosexual life style.

I don't know much about prior to 1973(when the APA removed Homosexuality out of its DSM), but the APA currently releases numerous statements defending Homosexuality, i.e:
http://gayrights.change.org/blog/view/e ... auses_harm
I'm guessing some of the other points made in the article/list/w.e are also flawed or obsolete in current psychiatric methods of treatment, though I do definitely think there are a lot of flaws in psychiatry and I'm sorry to hear about the trauma the practice has caused you, however, I think from a numerical and objective perspective psychiatry helps more people than damages. That's my opinion anyway.
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EDIT: A good example of what happens when psychiatry is handled unprofessionally(professional, I define is by psychiatrists) would be the several deaths Scientology has caused- if they had handed it over to the professionals, I doubt the deaths would have occurred.

17. Because psychiatrists, particularly white male psychiatrists, are homophobic - the American Psychiatric Association (APA) once labelled homosexuality as a "mental illness" or "mental disorder" - and have used forced electroshock on lesbians, trying to coerce them into adopting a heterosexual life style.

Sounds interesting. Maybe I should become a psychiatrist and torture lesbians into having sex with me! There have been local shrinks who have been caught coercing patients into sex.

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Don't know where the list came from, but it's completely false.

I hope no one reading that will take judgement because the information posted by Latitudinarian is not correct.

I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts it came from $cientology. One of the cult's missions in its crusade is to abolish psychiatry and one of their bigger nuggets of justification for that is that it was invented, or at least greatly spearheaded, by the nazis (nevermind that Freud was a jew ) and is therefor evil, which is one of the points put forward in the list.

This list is the biggest piece of bull I've seen in a long time. I'm with the others here asking 'where is your proof?' 'where are the numbers?' etc. Especially when a lot of the basic, and oft repeated, arguments are based around treatments and classifications that no longer exist, something which also discredits the statement made that psychiatry should be abolished because it follows a strict 'witch-hunting guide.'
For example, homosexuality was taken off the DSM about the same time as the aversion therapy techniques were found to not only be ineffective but harmful. Also, electroshock therapy and labotmies haven't been in use as a legitimate psychiatric treatment in, oh jeez, decades.

I mean, I won't deny that some horrible things have been done in the name of psychiatric progress but that's true of every single aspect of civilization. Should we abolish all medical science because clinical trials sometimes go awry or because it's failed to yet come up with a cure for things like cancer? Should we cease all technological research because it once resulted in the creation of the atomic bomb? Should we kill all anglo-americans because they indulged the practice of slavery for so long? Should we kill all the of the poor people because the worst criminal elements have so often come from that section of society?

IMHO, it's honestly unconscionable to suggest abolishing anything in its entirety because of a few mistakes made by particular individuals within the group or because of bygone practices. Psychiatry is not perfect but neither is any other form of science. That's the beauty of science, in my opinion, is that it is constantly changing and revising what we think we know about the universe. To condemn it because it is not perfect or all-knowing now is to suggest the future cessation of any form of scientific curiousity.

I'm pretty sure most people here would agree with me in saying that's utterly ridiculous.

All the above are valid reasons!

It is a fact that all psychiatrists on earth will agree without hesitation that psychiatry is not science. no room for debate.

I see no science in it at all. It to me is a waste of time and money because they force people who can't help themselves to try knowing they can't do it and the only alternative is to be committed. It's a sad fact but a true one. One girl on Wrong Planet told me that if I couldn't change my behavior that I either could be committed or forcibly removed to be. That to me is wrong and plain stupid.