25 GOOD REASONS WHY PSYCHIATRY MUST BE ABOLISHED

I'm sorry it did nothing to help you ...

For me it was just the opposite.
I don't know what to say.


Good luck to you.

Regarding if your experience will be positive or negative.

It all depends on if you seek help or it's forced upon you (voluntary or involuntary). Also what they diagnose you with has a huge effect on how you will be treated. Some medication for some diagnosis are fairly pleasant, others, such as anti psychotics are hell.

It also depends on the mindset of the doctor you see. If he doesn't like your politics, race, philosophy etc he has the power to take you out with his state powers and drugs. This is what happened to me.

It's never a one size fits all situation with psychiatry. But one things for sure, seeing none of psychiatry's fundemental claims have never been scientifically proven PSYCHIATRY NEEDS TO BE CLOSELY REGULATED!!!

Psychiatry needs reform, Pyschiatry needs a watchdog. Theres too much money involved with psychiatry and too much fraud.

It all depends on if you seek help or it's forced upon you (voluntary or involuntary). Also what they diagnose you with has a huge effect on how you will be treated. Some medication for some diagnosis are fairly pleasant, others, such as anti psychotics are hell.

I agree with you on this one.
Thankfully I've never had a negative expierence with psychiatry, I've always been treated well, and have had a psychiatrist that is extremely helpful.

I've only been on Anti-depressants so I do understand that that some anti-psychotics can be hard on people. I know a couple of people who had a terrible time on those types of medications.

sadgurl,

The worst part is psychiatry cannot prove any of the fundemental underlying theories about mental illness. There is not a single medical examination or diagnostic test that conclusively or reliably proves the existence of any mental illness.

People can be diagnosed Chronic Schizophrenic is a 10 min discussion with a psychiatrist and be forced to take horrible medication for the rest of their lives, even though there is no medical evidence of any lesion that is causing this so called disease.

I was diagnosed schizophrenic, I have never heard voices or had visual hallucinations.

My parents were members of the communist party, I am indigenous to my counrty and I was a poltically active anarchist before I was locked up.

My diagnosis of schizophrenia was purely social-political. If you are unaware that diagonsis of sz is given to silence disent within the community I will be glad to give post a mountain of information that will demonstrate how common this practice is.

Psychiatrists work as highly paid social control agents as well as dealing with other ailments such as depression, anxiety, ptsd and so on.

BTW,

The myth that some people are a danger to themselves or others and need to be medicated forcefully to stop these dangers is a crock.

If you look at the statistics, (not drug company stats) the real statisticss you will realise that forced drugging achieve's nothing. The same results can be obtained by providing voluntary treatment that patients feel safe with and want to participate with.

I had 14 friends all on anti-psychotic meds that suicide while on these meds. So much for meds preventing self harm?

It's total #######4. Pstychiatry hasn't developed a single diagnostic test for any mental illness, They don't know what their doing.

As for violence, psychotic people are no more violent than the average ass hole in the general community.

Coercive psychiatry must be abolished simply because it is in-effective. We need to provide places where people can seek help without fear of being placed on involuntary treatment orders.

I've been diagnosed with PTSD, GAD and depression... the treatments she has given me (not just medical) has been very beneficial.

8 years ago I wouldn't know if I'd be here today.
But thanks to her, i've worked through so much of this stuff, and feel fantastic.


Some mental illnesses are hard to diagnose, such as SZ, I think someone who believes that their paitent is suffering for that they need to rule out any other possibilty then a 10 min session.


All Psychiatrists treat people differently, some don't help people at all. I've been lucky to have a great psychiatrist....


I agree and disagree with what you are saying Devil.

People who have been treated badly with this, is bound to have things negative to say. I also do not belief everything that I read online etc. Whatever works for you or doesn't with therapy etc. It will be different for everyone.

Sadgurl

It's the same old crap, the consumer movement Vs the survivor movement.

Granted the survivor movement is much smaller and doesn't receive drug company funding like the larger consumer movement, but the fact we have truth and integrity on our side gives us a lot of momentum.

This is not the place to debate this issue, I am here to provide information to those who seek it.

Sadgurl,
Just imagine your psychiatrist not believing your story and diagnosing you delusional and psychotic, Then maybe you would be one of us.

Guest that would be a terrible thing.
If I had stuff like that happen to me with doctors, I wouldn't have been very trusting of them either.

Lucky for me I have a good one, and have had nothing go wrong with me in terms of treatments.

sadgurl wrote:Guest that would be a terrible thing.
If I had stuff like that happen to me with doctors, I wouldn't have been very trusting of them either.

Lucky for me I have a good one, and have had nothing go wrong with me in terms of treatments.

sadgurl,

I understand your point of view when you say you are lucky that you found a good psychiatrist that has met your needs.

However, the fact remains there are many cases where very unsatisfactory outcomes have occur on a regular basis. This is due to the fact that psychiatry is still an unscientific modality.

Psychiatry has yet to develop any type of diagnostic exam for any mental illness. Diagnosis at this point of time relies predominately by discussion with the patient and family members. There is nothing medical about it. The margin for error is huge. One only has to be aware of the problems psychiatrists from different cultural have in understanding people’s customs, norms and beliefs of other cultures. Many cultures have norms such as magical thinking entrenched within their culture. Here in the West magical thinking is a symptom of schizophrenia. A patient from tribal Africa explaining aspects of voodoo to a Western psychiatrist can easily be diagnosed as psychotic. Psychiatry must have a developed diagnostic exam to ensure the patient actually has some sort of brain abnormality before the are forcefully drugged.

On the flip side, we need therapist for people to talk to that have endured terrible traumatic events in their lives to help them to try to work through the issues of that event, and yes, take meds if they help.

Others suffer problems with life such as depression and anxiety; sure they should have access to professional help and meds if that person finds it helpful. I have no problem with whatever consenting adults want to do!

The problem for me is, I am a person deemed by psychiatry to have odd beliefs and will not conform to the norms of my culture. This does not equate to an abnormal brain. It equates to the fact I am capable of independent thought; I live by my rules and no one else’s.

Psychiatry (because it has no diagnostic exam) deem me to be mentally ill and schizophrenic and in need of being forcefully drugged! I have never committed a crime and have no intention of hurting anyone or myself.

Psychiatry to me (a diagnosed schizophrenic) is nothing more than social control.

As I've said before, it all depends on what your diagnosis is when it comes to what type of treatment you will receive.

If you are one of these people that think some people must be forcefully medicated to ensure the safety of themselves and others, I will be glad to show you studies where forced treatment achieves nothing.

14 of my friends committed suicide whilst on this so-called self-harm reduction medication.

I am fighting for the reform of psychiatry so people are not drugged just because they wish to live a meaningful existence and not a zombie of the capitalist system.

Sorry for the long rant, I hope you read it and can gain some empathy.

I had to respond on this...

I do agree on some of this regarding culture.

All my life I have had preminitions that have come true. Yet have been dx'd with schizo typal for my beliefs, my pdoc, made a comment one day regarding my messages " I'm not the one that thinks she is being sent messages from the otherside", she later appologized when the messages that were witnessed that appeared in a picture that everyone was handed one but only mine changed in 12 ways came to pass, everyone was freaked out. and one of the witness came to the office with me, and I brought my picture and my witnesses. The picture had not been altered and changed in front of 5 peoples eyes at a funeral of my aunts last summer. It was a photo of all 4 of my aunts.

I get this stuff all the time.

Deja Vu is also a temporal lobe malfunction according to psychiatry, but yet, hasn't everyone you know had it???? And don't we know what will happen next because of it?? Or is it just me, I don't think so.

How many of us are in someway superstitious??? ever throw salt over your shoulder?? Don't step on a crack?? Get scared if a bird flies in your house?? Death comes in 3's?? etc.

But there are tests, Such as MRI's and Catscan that do show certain disorders to the brain, such as bipolar and schizophrenia, by lobe swelling, and function heat. Hallucinations are not of the norm. If the patient is truthful. I do agree meds can cause problems too that were not there before. yes. I have experienced this too.

Zyprexa and seroquel caused my diabetes. It's a catch 22/ I am angry only because I was not told the reprocussions of the drugs. It is too late now.

I don't want to sacrifice my mind for body or vice versa.

Psychiatry is not an exact science. And that is why so many of us trail and error our own self diagnosis prior to going in.

But on the note of losing people to meds, I've lost people to non medicated bipolar, 3 cousins and an aunt. So this does go both ways, and hardens the heart for both of us in opposite effects. But who's to say they would'n't have done it anyway, right? I wish I knew. If they had, I probably would have written your sentence instead. Hindsight is 20/20 or is it?? Or is life fate? Regardless of how we try to control our/others destinies, if there is one, we shall never know for sure.

There is a personality disorder for every move we make , ever thought we have or for every belief we have in the U.S. that was taught to us, that science or the pdoc doesn't believe or understand. I do think I made a believer of ONE doctor. An x file if I may. Call me Mulder, call her Skully. Just don't call me CRAZY!!

I don't want a debate I just wanted to give you my opinion, based on my experience.

Thanks for listening.

All I am sure of is I am bipolar. And I do have ptsd. That I am sure of. And was sure of before I saw a doc.