25 GOOD REASONS WHY PSYCHIATRY MUST BE ABOLISHED

WOW.

Sean,

thank you SO much for taking the time w/ this post. You are really helping me to get a better understanding of this. All of you posting here are helping me learn of things I never knew went on or existed. It has been a learning experience. Oh I have much to learn on this whole issue.

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Can I ask a question........are those posting here all dealing w/ schitzophrenia(SP?)? Or are some of you that feel this strong about "anti-psychiatry" diagnosed w/ other forms of "mental illness"??? I mean...are these types of experineces something you'd only experience if you are diagnosed w/ schitzophrenia....well...wait...per Sean's post...no...because he said he was misdiagnosed w/ that and I bet anyone could be depending on what the counselor saw in you at a given time...w/out taking your whole picture/history into account.

See...like I am diagnosed w/ "cyclothymia" and "OCPD". For me...well and now I'm asking...is it fair to say what I go through is probably not anything compared to how you suffer w/ your "mental illness" (for lack of a better way to word that?) Because, sadly, all I know about this mental illness are the stereotypes. And I know it's not like that for everyone...mind you it's why I pop in to a forum I'm not personally associated w/....because I want to better understand it and experiences.

I'm sorry...I hope I'm not offending anyone here. I'm not trying to imply anything about all of this....so if I'm wrong on something...please don't get angry w/ me...I'm trying to get a handle on this and I hope you'll come back and steer me in a clearer direction!!

Also thanks (everyone) for letting me be in on something that I'm not personally connected to and trying to help me understand and learn.

star wrote::lol:

Hi, I've just joined this forum. You have really cheered me up! My shrink misdiagnosed me as manic-depressive and the newest one is that I suffer from borderline personality disorder! Well I've resigned myself to the fact that he's just a shrink and not God!

Star, also remember that BPD can be a difficult diagnosis to make because of the symptoms etc. My friend is BPD and her doctors had to rule out a whole bunch of other disorders before they finally diagnosed her with BPD.

Believe it or not I've actually heard MH Professionals call BPD a "trash can diagnosis" meaning that if they couldn't figure out what your diagnosis was they stuck you with that because it is so difficult to pinpoint.

that's what i feel has happened to me.

seanetal wrote:Believe it or not I've actually heard MH Professionals call BPD a "trash can diagnosis" meaning that if they couldn't figure out what your diagnosis was they stuck you with that because it is so difficult to pinpoint.

Really that's weird.... hmm, never head that before. I knew it was hard to diagnose but I never heard it be called trash candiagnosis.

There you go learned something new.

Star,

"You may be interested in these experiments that tested the accuracy of psychiatric diagnosis.
The Rosenhan experiment was an investigation into the validity of psychiatric diagnosis conducted by David Rosenhan in 1972. It was published in the journal Science under the title On being sane in insane places.

Rosenhan's study consisted of two parts. The first involved the use of healthy associates or 'pseudopatients', who briefly simulated auditory hallucinations in an attempt to gain admission to psychiatric hospital. The second involved asking staff at a psychiatric hospital to detect non-existent 'fake' patients. In the first case hospital staff failed to detect a single pseudopatient, in the second the staff falsely detected large numbers genuine patients as impostors. The study is considered an important and influential criticism of psychiatric diagnosis.

The pseudopatient experiment

For the purposes of the study, eight 'pseudopatients' (associates of Rosenhan selected to be a group of varied and healthy individuals) attempted to gain admission into psychiatric hospitals. During psychiatric assessment they claimed to be hearing voices that were often unclear, but noticeably said the words "empty", "hollow" and "thud". No other psychiatric symptoms were claimed, and apart from giving false names and employment details, further biographical details were truthfully reported. If admitted, the pseudopatients were asked to 'act normally', report that they felt fine and no longer heard voices.

All eight were admitted, seven with a diagnosis of schizophrenia. None of the pseudopatients was detected during their admission by hospital staff, although other psychiatric patients seemed to be able to correctly identify them as impostors. All were discharged with a diagnosis of schizophrenia "in remission".

During their stay, hospital notes indicated that staff interpreted much of the pseudopatient's behaviour in terms of mental illness. For example, the note-taking of one individual was listed as "writing behaviour" and considered pathological.

The non-existent impostor experiment

For this experiment, Rosenhan used a well-known research and teaching hospital, whose staff had heard of the results of the initial study, but claimed that similar errors could not be made at their institution. Rosenhan claimed that during a three month period, one or more pseudopatients would attempt to gain admission and the staff were required to detect which patients were impostors. Out of 193 patients, 41 were considered to be impostors and a further 42 were considered suspect. In reality, Rosenhan had sent no pseudopatients and all patients suspected as impostors by the hospital staff were genuine patients."

Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_being_s ... ane_places

It is hilarious to me that people think that Mr. Yowler and I are the same person! Maybe I have multiple personality disorder and I've been posting under his name!! If not, then we are two different people.

jimbo wrote:It is hilarious to me that people think that Mr. Yowler and I are the same person! Maybe I have multiple personality disorder and I've been posting under his name!! If not, then we are two different people.

Only one person has asked this: me, Shrink resistant. I just asked, I was wrong, no big deal. I'm pleased you found it amusing! Haha!
I reckon when the DSM V comes out, laughing will probably be classed as a disease. Haha!

All the best.
SR

I wasn't saying that Shrink Resistant to try and make it a big deal. I know you were only asking. I just thought it was pretty funny. I was actually flattered since I think Mr. Yowler is quite eloquent! But you're right, when somebody is mentally ill they would probably classify laughing as some form of hysteria!