Zyprexa rant

I really need to rant and vent, or I'm not going to accomplish anything productive today.

I just saw yet another post where someone was prescribed Zyprexa for borderline personality disorder, along with an anti-seizure medication and prozac. What the f*** is her shrink thinking? It took me a YEAR to get back on my feet after some quack put me on Zyprexa. That's a year I will never get back.

I understand that doctors can't be intimately familiar with every single drug. But for God's sake, DON'T take the pharmaceutical salesperson's word for it! I KNOW a pharmaceutical sales rep! She's an alcoholic, and will tell the doctor ANYTHING to make a sale so she can get more commission and more booze! And the doctors believe it!

Check the fact sheets, for f***'s sake!!!

Unfrotunately, this occurs a lot. Shrinks will often 'push' medications they are being marketed. I have had this happen to me as well, but not with the medication in question. You can, however, refuse the advice and ask for something else. Most people just don't know any better and accept whatever their doctor presrcibed.

Pharmaceutical companies are in big compeittion with each other and will push the latest 'miracle' pill as the solution to whatever ails you. Other than what's mandated by the FDA, very little research takes place to see how the new medication pans out in the long-term or how it does with other medications.

Psychiatrists often get free samples to distribute to their patients and 'kickbacks' for prescribing it. It's one of the 'dirty little secrets' of the profession.

As far as side effects, here's how I look at it:

For many pills in this category, the main effects are diarhea, nausea, vomiting, headache, constipation, dry mouth, blurred vision, fatigue, dizziness, general malaise, and turn you into a 500 pound whale. They will also make most men impotent .

Side effects: It might alleviate depression orr mellow you out.

I've never been pushed medications I was never comfortable with. I've never been on this drug, I think you're going to get good doctors and bad doctors out there... I've seen Zyprexa treated for Schizophrenia and Bipolar, BPD I don't think I've ever heard anyone on it. Though for some reason it makes me think that I have though not entirety sure. So it can help some people suffering from BPD though I think that percentage is slow.

Sorry you had to deal with this Frayed.

Thanks guys. I know it can take time to find the right medication, but sometimes there are glaring errors. This was a while ago, but the recent post refreshed it. I hope that it happens to as few people as possible in the future. Psychology is still young.

Thanks for listening.

Yeah, I hated gaining over 50+ both times I took it, although it was for schizophrenia. I heard of someone being prescribed it for other non psychotic uses.

Yes, indeed drugs can be awful and we should always be familiar with the effects of any injestable substance before consumption.

That said, each person's response to chemical reactions will vary. What one person is intolerant to another may derive benefit. Even in response to foods.

Old saying goes "You are what you eat."
Right?
Well...
Just because you can eat it doesn't mean it's food fit for you.

The capability to force substances into ourselves, through injestion or injection, does not equate to a safety of forcing those substances.

We can all benefit from considering the possible outcomes of intake-food, drugs, media, relationships, etc...

Moss

Yes, indeed drugs can be awful and we should always be familiar with the effects of any injestable substance before consumption.

That said, each person's response to chemical reactions will vary. What one person is intolerant to another may derive benefit. Even in response to foods.

Old saying goes "You are what you eat."
Right?
Well...
Just because you can eat it doesn't mean it's food fit for you.

The capability to force substances into ourselves, through injestion or injection, does not equate to a safety of forcing those substances.

We can all benefit from considering the possible outcomes of our intakes-food, drugs, media, relationships, etc...

Moss

How you feeling Frayed ?

Totally agree with you Frayed. Zyprexa should never had been allowed to be used off topic for treatment of mood disorders. But when the drug company is making 74 billion a year from it consumers care is secondary. I always feel angry when I see the drug rep arrive at the Doctors surgery with their 30 peices of silver.

It took me six and half weeks of horrific withrawals to end my association with zyprexa which was prescribed for mood stabilisation. Four and half were spent in a private hospital. For the next 15 months I felt like crap from its effect on my brain. How can they prescribe a psychotic med for mood, make false claims about its effectiveness to treat depression, underestate its weight gain side effect, its link to diabetes 1 and claim it is not addictive. Here is an article link on Zyprexa which questions the manufactures ethics and motives for profit only.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/st ... itter_pill

You are not alone with your negative experience with Zyprexa, my psychiatrist informed me that another client of his was admitted to hospital with severe withdrawals.

I'm not sure how my post was duplicated. Apologies.

My family had yet another encounter with misprescribing this past week. I don't know what else to call it besides misprescribing.

The doc wrote a script for and we picked up a new still under patent drug. The doc gave it to combat recurrent, episodic nausea and vomiting. The info that came with the drug specifically says it is not approved for any use other than migraine headaches. It also said not to use preventatively, which the doc had told us to do. It also contraindications with other current medications and is known to induce the very symptoms the doc said it would prevent. Further the patient it was dispenced to meets three of the risk-group populations that are not encouraged to take the darn drug. Oh, the obsurdity. So the doc was told, "Hey, I'm not going to conduct this experiment on myself. It's too risky. Let's pursue some other treatment course." Patient rights. Ah, the luxury. (involuntary treatment strips you of such choices.)

I saw a news segment regarding the "potentially dangerous side effects of weight loss supplements" and how the FDA was working to ban the supplements. Crikey, the side effects were little different from those of ibuprophen: liver damage, stomach ulcers, etc. It isn't that the side effects aren't harmful. It just struck me how if the same list of side effects were given at the end of a commercial for a pharmacuetical, few would call it aggregious and demand the banning of them.

The general public (at least in the US) seems really clueless as to what exactly is a drug. I default to a very old definition. A drug is any substance which rather than being overcome by the body, overcomes it. You body digests food, you body assimilates vitamins and minerals, but over eating or overdosing even on vitamins, causes these substances to overcome the body and alter it: weight gain or toxicity-and those could be positive effects if one is underweight or deficient.

We have to stay vigilent, so that we don't become doctors experiments and instead become more healthful humans.

Moss