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So tell me Doc, what's your Cure Rate?

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So tell me Doc, what's your Cure Rate?

Postby jdnewell » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:44 am

This is an anti-psych forum and so I think it appropriate to get up on my soap box and rail against Psych, duh.

Okay, first off I'll divulge that I don't hate doctors or hate people but, it's obvious that Man's compassion has come full circle, and now it is killing Him. Man.

We coddle the ailing and make sure they can live long and even (likely) reproduce. That is why diabetes is widespread and folks in general are fat and lazy and evil and deplorable and just totally totally worthless. I'll spare you the gory details because most already know the lamentable prevailing conditions if they keep up at all with current events. But that's asking too much, isn't it. No one wants to be burdened with any rat race mentality, like having to always know what scandals are coming to the fore.

So I'll reinforce. Psych is the oldest occupation in the World, ie. looking askance at one's fellow(s). It's sheer blustery stupidity in today's new age. I'm Ok you're Ok and such.

So what is your cure rate, mister shrink, zero?? Yeah, good job, bloke. And who in tarnation ever taught you how to differentiate people -- without tools! You've just plain "got the gift", is that it bloke? And your professors in college had the Gift as well and passed it on ----arghh nevermind.

Charlatans all!
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Postby Chucky » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:34 pm

Hello and welcome back, jdnewell. You might be surprised to hear that I hold the same beliefs as you have presented here. I just don't happen to share these beliefs too often because I know that they are controversial. In my opinion though - and ultimately - I think that we would be better off if there wasn's so much emphasis placed on mental health. In the past, people just got on with it, no matter how messed up in their they were. Nowadays, however, people are told that there is something fundamentally different/wrong about them if they are even slightly different from the norm.

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Postby Kourin » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:50 am

Chucky wrote:In the past, people just got on with it, no matter how messed up in their they were.

Unless society decided that the reason why Mary cut herself and didn't get out much was that she was possessed/a witch/dangerous and had her exorcised/burned at the stake/locked away in an asylum, or whatever best fit the preferred pre-psychoanalysis diagnosis and treatment of the day.
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Postby Chucky » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:58 am

That's a long sentence dude, and I'm struggling to understand what you're on about. I'm strongly thinking that a religious person wouldn't like reading it though, right?!
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Postby whero » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:21 am

Mary was a common name in the middle ages. It's also common in Latin countries. What he's saying is if a person showed signs of mental issues in the middle ages she would be burned or drowned or some other.
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Postby Chucky » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:46 pm

Oh, that could very possibly be true. Is it such a bad thing though? I don't have much opinion on it, as I can see both advantages and disadvantages to it. The advantages are that disability 'genes' would be erased from the gene-pool. The disadvantage is that someone loses a loved one. Hitler wanted a 'pure' race of people, and I can understand his views in some respects, but he's just a nutter.

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Postby jdnewell » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:28 pm

Speaking of Hitler and racist concepts: that guy wanted human survivors and I don't, which is our enormous difference. He was trying to pressure humanity to an acceptable outcome, which is exactly what countless dictators try to do.

But an important point here is that throughout it all, throughout hundreds and thousands of years of oppression, shrinks have always been there lurking, winning, floating like scum, palling up to all manner of despots in cahoots and serving their evil ends!

The psychiatrist is what, by trade? He's a doctor, yo? So he's a physician ie. a healer. So then what part of the physique does he heal??

He doesn't.

Arghh -- charlatans all!
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Postby Chucky » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:57 am

Does anyone know when psychiatry started as a profession? Physicians have obviously been around for many hundreds of ears, but have 'shrinks'?
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Postby Anxious » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:52 am

Chucky wrote:Oh, that could very possibly be true. Is it such a bad thing though? I don't have much opinion on it, as I can see both advantages and disadvantages to it. The advantages are that disability 'genes' would be erased from the gene-pool. The disadvantage is that someone loses a loved one. Hitler wanted a 'pure' race of people, and I can understand his views in some respects, but he's just a nutter.

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I wouldn't have disabled people killed but if they have a hereditary disease that can be passed on, they should be sterilized.
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Postby Chucky » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:49 pm

What do you mean by sterilised? Like, how can you, for example, sterilise a person with a hereditary mental condition?
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