An Open Letter to All Who Will Read It

My name is V. Flush. I have had some run ins with some people on this forum but I must let you know before my time is up.

I have come with a message. Do not take this lightly. This is very serious for everyone involved.

I have posted to a minor extent on my views and have been met with fierce opposition.

But look all throughout history at the messengers.

Daniel the Prophet came with a message. He was put in the lion's den.

John came with a message. He was boiled in oil and exiled to Patmos.

Jesus came with a message of love, hope, and salvation. He was sentenced to crucifixion.

Joan of Arc came with a message. She was burned at the stake.

William Tyndale came with a message for the English people. He was murdered.

All throughout history we can find many messengers who were persecuted, hated, and attacked for their beliefs, and many were ultimately killed for them.

I too have come with a message.

It may be difficult for some to hear. It may seem illogical or that I am mentally ill and in need of medical assistance. But that is not true.

It is difficult to hear due to the profundity of my sayings and the truth apparent in my words.

No one wants to hear the truth sometimes. And many people already know it but are afraid to say it.

Now is the time to wake up. We have a group of scientists who sought to kill us through bloodletting, that went on to kill us in Nazi Germany, that came to America with their pseudoscientific teachings and have been killing us ever since.

Psychiatry is going to kill you if we do not stop it now.

Some of the side effects of my current medication are hyperglycemia, diabetes, agranulocytosis, and as one website says, it can cause weight gain and metabolic changes associated with an increased risk of diabetes and high cholesterol. Also, not typically found on most websites is that it causes infertility.

I have gained 50 pounds on this medication, my cholesterol has doubled. I am now at an increased risk of diabetes and it running in my family I will probably develop it.

If I do not get off this medication it will kill me. And there are many like me who if they do not get off of it, it will certainly be what kills them.

And in the meantime I may not be able to have children. No more V. Flush's and that will be the end of my family name. I am the one who will carry our name through to the 22nd century but now that the psychiatrist has determined that I am an undesirable person, as they did in Nazi Germany with millions, I am being executed.

No longer can they burn you at the stake. No longer can they torture and finally send you to the gas chambers.

But now they have a new weapon. It is the psychiatric drugs. And they effectively kill thousands every year, if not more. No one is charged with a crime or criminal negligence, no justice for your family. No. You're dead from the drugs the doctor gave you, and no one is held responsible. Not the doctors, not the FDA, not the US federal government.

Your life means nothing. And you are a useless leech to society, drawing your disability checks, having fat and stupid kids pop out every nine months.

This is the attitude of many doctors.

Be forewarned.

They are going to kill you. They will do it without a trace and they will do it completely legally.

When you are on your deathbed from complications or side effects of a medication you were taking you will remember the day you laughed at, made fun of, persecuted, hated, and rejected the one who came to warn you.

Thank you for your post. I agree with most of what you say. Some may be turned off with your assertions, but they do contain a lot of truth. They also are very important.

I gained over 100 pounds with the meds I was forced to take. As a college PE instructor, know the many dangers of carrying that much weight--high blood pressure, diabetes, heat problems, and joint problems. The doctors kept me away from all other options for treating my mental illness. It seemed like they wanted to just drug me until I was only able to sit in a chair all day for the rest of my life. I think they have low standards for treatment: if they can numb you so that you do not hurt yourself or society, they proclaim success.

However, I have met many who really do seem to want to just sit around and be on disability. I talk to many and have written extensively about how to deal with mental illness without so much heavy medication. I am often met with anger and disbelief.

I just wanted to say that you are on the right track with your thoughts.

Good Luck,
James

V. Flush, as it's ok to write things about your problems with medications, by calling out member's that you have had run ins with is not something that is allowed, as you are only asking for others to come in and defend themselves etc...

So please watch how you post.


Psychiatry wont kill you, that's a false statement as it has helped other's more then it as not.

I know for one it has helped me out a lot, as I know it has for a lot of other people. When you have any horrible expierence with doctors etc then you will think only negative thoughts, but the statement is not true at all.


Side Effects do occur, even severe ones but it does not mean it'll happen to you, the only reason why they tell you the severe side effects is because one person or another has expierenced it while on the medication, those are rare, and that is also why you need to keep watch on how you are feeling with medication, and not all medications cause infertility etc.... Also, you cannot always believe what you read on websites, as the information there is not always accurate.

I also gained some weight while on medication, Remeron to be exact I was on it for 6 months, after I got off the medication the weight came off. Effexor is known to have the same side effect though I never gained weight on it as I know someone who has, but again he went off it and the weight went away, this is not always the case with everyone...

Medication won't kill someone, sometimes with medications there are health side effects, that is why it needs to be watched closely with your doctor, and not all anti-depressants etc have severe side effects that you are mentioning... not all medication has this affect at all period.


I'm sorry that you expierenced such a bad time with the drug, what was it that you used that caused all these issues for you ?


Again, you are not dead while using medication's I've personally been on medication since I was 16, and I have no side effects at all that you speak of... I'm healthy, and happy.... so it's a bit extreme to say what you are saying about medication's as it helps 100's of people... sadly you were one that didn't benefit from it, but other's do.

My doctors have never treated me the way you were treated, it's sad to see that it does happen.

V.Flush.,
I agree. It's scary what scientists can do now. I was recently in a situation with medication. I was put on another epileptic medication. This medication, Kepra, didn't only not help, it made my seizures worse. When i was on it I had ATLEAST 2 seizures a day for many months. I told my doctors i wanted off my meds. I didn't feel right on them. It was also effecting everything else. Going out was a trouble, not knowing if it was going to be a good day (2 seizures) or a bad day (up to 10 seizures)

No this isn't dealing with a physciatrist, but it is dealing with a doctor and medication.

Thankyou for speaking out.

There is nothing wrong with psychology. There is also nothing wrong with the intentions the medication is created for as well.

There is something wrong about unqualified psychiatrists that prescribe medication to someone (especially children) when the issue(s) can be resolved without it.

There are cases where medication improves one's quality of life, or even saves people that are suffering dramatically.

It is a misconception that medication will cause your life to be better, because when it comes to how you feel, nobody knows yourself better than you. Medication can simply aid you. If it causes more harm than good- its not the right treatment plan.

YOU are the deciding factor in your life in the long run, mental illness simply makes that a little more complicated.

I live with Bipolar, I struggle, I know what it's like.
I know, at age 20, what it feels like when you believe you aren't going to live another year.
I know what it feels like to believe my life is meaningless because extraterrestrials exist and for a week gaze at the sky when I have time in hopes to see a UFO for peace of mind.
I know what it feels like to hallucinate, and simultaneously have zero connection with feelings and nature and the fear that goes with it (hospitalized and then voluntary hospitalization for 7 days).


To any fellow readers, I don't know about you but I would much rather gain physical weight than suffer with a mental illness. That is purely an excuse.


I am blessed with a hyperactive mind and able to analyze these things myself as to why they occurred, and many other things about myself that more than likely can be applied to anyone suffering, and anyone in general.


I have found my own stability using logic and a hyperactive mind, but not everyone can do this alone because not everyone's personality is the same.

It is that very reason I know for a fact if I choose to be a psychiatrist that any of my fellow people that need help will get the help they need tailored specifically for them, and live life how they want to well- even if it includes medication.


There are people out there like me who want to help you because they don't want anyone to suffer.


You come with a message, as do I.

Your letter made me sad for you. You need help. Perhaps you are not happy with the treatment you have had so far, but you still need treatment of some kind.
The fact that you have magnified your experience to now also include all Mental Health treatments shows that you are not balanced.
You are you and your experiences are unique to you. There are good and bad experiences to tell on this topic.
I had intensive treatment for Five years. Full time-no work, no friends, no family. I lived in a psych ward for a year and a half. I was on so many meds that the pharmacist would phone my Doctor each time I refilled the prescription. IT SAVED MY LIFE.
Obviously you did not receive adequate care. That happens. It is terrible and tragic. Of course you deserved better. Medications and treatments do need to improve in many cases. But focusing on it will not help. Especially when you try and make the issue as big as trying to include an entire field of medicine.
FACE your own issue. Go get better before trying to take on such a load. It will only make you feel alone and more ill.
I imagine you were hoping to do some good by making this thread. But that is not how it will turn out for you.
Your not helping people with this, you are further isolating them from getting the help they need.
Don't let this experience be an excuse not to move on in your own life.
With Hope,
One

Different people react to medications differently. What works for me may not work for you. Every medication on the face of the earth (both psychiatric and non-psychiatric) have some sort of side effect. It doesn't mean that doctors are trying to kill you. Nor can they predict how you are going to react to a medication if you've never taken it before. I know that my body is sensitive and each time I've taken a medicine that has given me side effects...you know what I do? I communicate that to my psychiatrist, because he's not telepathic and works off of feedback FROM YOU. And you know what my big bad evil homicidal nazi psychiatrist does? He takes me off of the medication so it won't hurt me any more (how preposterous! A psychiatrist that you say comes from nazi germany trying to kill us all in the form of a witch hunt through psychiatric medications is....*gasp* HELPING me)

So, reading through your post, the way you talk...and the fact that you are comparing yourself to historical and religious prophets...yea I'm gonna say you might need new meds...or a new pdoc...but for sure you still need psychiatric attention, hun.

Hi V. Flush,

I love how people come to a forum where it is supposed to be safe to speak your opinion against psychiatry, and not only argue your beliefs, but are condescending about it.

This frustrates me very deeply.

I think your fears are warranted. Many times I have been in the doctors office looking at patients who are falling apart from the inside out, and wonder if I am really in a place of healing. It may not be the doctors themselves. I think it is more likely the pharmaceutical companies that are offering these doctors a bonus for prescribing certain meds, knowing full well that they have not been properly tested before hitting the market. And they don't care because it will only be the "crazy" people that are hurt by this, and they will make much more in profit than they will lose in settlement court.

Doctors are trained by the scientists that create the pills. The scientist says they know everything about bipolar, and that it can't be treated without medication, and the doctor believes him. Then the doctor prescribes the medication, thinking that it is the best course of action. The doctor doesn't wish to kill his patient. But he has been fooled by the half truth that these "experts" on mental health are feeding him.

When the pill fails, The doctor removes the pill from the patients regimen...IF he is a caring doctor, and cares to listen to the patient with an open mind. This is not always the case.

Don't be quick to dismiss any theory, even if it seems radical or "unstable." There just may be some truth behind it.

Everything is not what it seems.

I agree wholeheartedly with onebravegirl. Try and find a psychologist you connect with and can trust. Talk therapy combined with the knowledge of medications and disorders a psychologist has would be key for you.

I agree that some psychiatrists are bad, prescribe wrong medications or are just flat out negligent.
However, there are good ones out there. People in the mental health community that work hard to genuinely try to help. Medications are no different. Anti-depressants saved my life, and the lives of two close friends i have.

Please don't scare people by comparing psychiatrists to Nazi's. Or by saying getting psychiatric help is akin to going to a gas chamber. There are good psychiatrists out there, and spreading words like this makes their job a lot harder. It also makes people who may not have any other resort left to them aside from psychiatry afraid of actually seeking help.

What do you mean by

I must let you know before my time is up.

? Don't do anything irreversible now.

Take care,
~Robert

I don't know whether to agree with you ior be worried for you. But for the most part I agree with you because for years i have been struggling with prolonged bleeding and that isn't being helped. My symptoms include fatigue, pain in legs, back, lower abdomen, infertility, headaches, and depression. I have been to doctor after doctor and with barely any help. I am still having this problem know. When it was getting treated I was happy, loving, I even started looking for work, and exercising on a regular basis. But when treatment stopped I went into a deep depression and was only treated for psychosis, slapped in a mental institution and forced to take Anti- psychotic meds, but until this very day my REAL problem has been ignored. My family even believes that I tend to act like a Zombie, I am no longer hyper and joyful, I don't have any drive like I used to. Because i am on this crap I believe I am crazy and people around me think it too. Well one but hole did tell his child not to play with me because I was crazy- but that was because I was freaken depressed so screw him. And as a result I am trying to fix my REAL problem so I can prove to them your medication that you gave me just added to my anxiety and depression. I think I am crazy because that is how you treat me with your stupid therapy breathing exercises and making me talk about my worse fears in front of strangers, and when I don't I get looked at like I have lips on my forehead. I get dubbed as antisocial. I wouldn't be antisocial if every time I was sad I was thrown into a psych ward- its freaking embarrassing. Every time I walk down the street I wonder if I am going to bump into a nurse that saw me there, or are they going to tell a person that I know I was there. I wish they did house calls instead. By the way I still feal SAd, Depressed, Angry,- the for human feelings doesn't work or cure nothing- it is supposed to just numb these feelings.

If I were raped or abused I should have every right to feel bad, its only natural to feel that way after trauma. Only time can heal wounds.